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Old 08-05-2012, 11:24 AM  
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BREAKING: Shooting at Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, Wis.

Oh hell. Possible hostages inside including children. 20-30 shot.

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BREAKING: Shooting at Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, Wis.
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By Natalie DiBlasio, USA TODAY
Updated 2m ago

Several people have been injured in a shooting incident at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wis., just south of Milwaukee, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports.

Update at 2:16 p.m.: Lee Biblo, chief medical officer at Froedtert Hospital, tells CNN that the injured are all adults, all male and all in critical condition.

Update at 1:59 p.m. ET: The police cannot give a victim count or a suspect count.

A police officer on the scene says that one officer was shot multiple times and one suspect was shot and is down. A police officer will give another update at 1:30 CT.

Update at 1:51 p.m. ET: Sukhwindar Nagr says he called his brother-in-law's phone and a priest at the temple answered, telling him that his brother-in-law had been shot, along with three priests.

Nagr says the priest also said women and children were hiding in closets at the temple.

Update at 1:38 p.m. ET: There are more than a dozen ambulances parked outside the temple, and police have corralled media and a handful of bystanders to an area near the temple, AP reports.

Update at 1:25 p.m. ET: Two men have been admitted to Froedtert hospital, a hospital spokeswoman said. One is in critical condition in the surgical intensive care unit; the other has been sent to an operating room, CNN reports.

Update at 1:23 p.m. ET: Fran McLaughlin, spokeswoman for the Milwaukee County Sheriff's Department, says a call came in at 10:26 a.m. CT. She says officers are at the scene but she has no other information to report, AP reports.

Update at 1:13 ET: Two shooters are possibly still inside with children as hostages, according to someone who sent a text message to a Journal Sentinel reporter, the Journal-Sentinel reports.

CNN is reporting that the shooter is at large.

Update at 1:07 ET: Reports of 20 to 30 shot at Sikh Temple in Wisconsin, possible hostages, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports.

There are reports that the head priest was locked inside a restroom with a cell phone and said there were as many as 30 victims in temple.

As of about noon, the Milwaukee County Medical Examiner's Office said it had not been called to the scene.

Meanwhile, Brookfield police officers were dispatched to the Sikh Temple at 3675 N. Calhoun Road as a precaution in the aftermath of the Oak Creek shooting.

At least three squads were at the temple in Waukesha County.

About 50 people were at the Brookfield temple for a morning service and many of them went outside after they learned of the shooting in Oak Creek.

Original post: The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinelis reporting that multiple people, an undetermined number between 8 and 20, have been injured in a shooting incident at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wis., just south of Milwaukee.

The shooting took place around 11 a.m. local time at the Sikh Temple, 7512 S. Howell Ave., in Oak Creek.

Oak Creek police, the Milwaukee County Sheriff's Department and other law enforcement agencies have responded.

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Old 08-06-2012, 10:04 PM   #151
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So if a christian does something like this, the christian community says he's not one of us. If a Muslim does this, the Muslims say he's not one of us. At least atheists/agnostics don't have to deny their own.
Killer Clown said something in one of the Chik-Fil-A threads that really resonated with me personally. He was talking about biblical law, and he said something like, "The law is written in your heart..."

I have seen a lot of passages or verses in sacred texts that can be used to validate ridiculously hateful behavior. The Old Testament, The Qur'an, you can dig up whatever you want really. So people who want to do these horrible things like burn down churches, persecute missionaries and so on, they can try to validate themselves by claiming that they are following the will of God. I don't believe that to be true. I don't believe that a supreme being would try to inspire you to hatred. I'm pretty much agnostic with heavy Buddhist leanings. I don't and won't pretend to know what's going on spiritually. But that really makes no sense to me.

So. Follow the letter of the "law" as it is written in a text that is well over a thousand years old, that has been translated multiple times? Or read the text and try to get a sense of what it's all about?

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Old 08-06-2012, 10:06 PM   #152
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Killer Clown said something in one of the Chik-Fil-A threads that really resonated with me personally. He was talking about biblical law, and he said something like, "The law is written in your heart..."

I have seen a lot of passages or verses in sacred texts that can be used to validate ridiculously hateful behavior. The Old Testament, The Qur'an, you can dig up whatever you want really. So people who want to do these horrible things like burn down churches, persecute missionaries and so on, they can try to validate themselves by claiming that they are following the will of God. I don't believe that to be true. I don't believe that a supreme being would try to inspire you to hatred. I'm pretty much agnostic with heavy Buddhist leanings. I don't and won't pretend to know what's going on spiritually. But that really makes no sense to me.

So. Follow the letter of the "law" as it is written in a text that is well over a thousand years old, that has been translated multiple times? Or read the text and try to get a sense of what it's all about?

The law is written in your heart.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:43 PM   #153
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Killer Clown said something in one of the Chik-Fil-A threads that really resonated with me personally. He was talking about biblical law, and he said something like, "The law is written in your heart..."

I have seen a lot of passages or verses in sacred texts that can be used to validate ridiculously hateful behavior. The Old Testament, The Qur'an, you can dig up whatever you want really. So people who want to do these horrible things like burn down churches, persecute missionaries and so on, they can try to validate themselves by claiming that they are following the will of God. I don't believe that to be true. I don't believe that a supreme being would try to inspire you to hatred. I'm pretty much agnostic with heavy Buddhist leanings. I don't and won't pretend to know what's going on spiritually. But that really makes no sense to me.

So. Follow the letter of the "law" as it is written in a text that is well over a thousand years old, that has been translated multiple times? Or read the text and try to get a sense of what it's all about?

The law is written in your heart.
You didn't find this on infowars.com did you? No red flag, black flag false flag reference.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:53 PM   #154
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You didn't find this on infowars.com did you? No red flag, black flag false flag reference.

I just visited that site for the first time due to your reference. My head hurts now.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:55 PM   #155
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I just visited that site for the first time due to your reference. My head hurts now.
It's filled with craziness. Now you know where some of our more conspiratorial posters get their feeds.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:07 PM   #157
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It's filled with craziness. Now you know where some of our more conspiratorial posters get their feeds.
I guess I should have assumed that were sites out there like that. It's unnerving to actually see one.
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I bet that's when you felt "threatened," turned around and ran out of the theater screaming, while your kids hid from the public in shame.
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