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Old 01-01-2013, 05:20 PM   #1
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That's the report I referenced earlier.

He also said somewhere that Clark talked to gruden the morning after the pittsburgh game. Maybe in the same post
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:11 PM   #2
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I would assume that the coach Hunt hires has to have a good history with QB's. I don't see that with Cowher.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:12 PM   #3
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I would assume that the coach Hunt hires has to have a good history with QB's. I don't see that with Cowher.
If he wants to draft the next Roethlisberger, I'll let him.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:17 PM   #4
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If he wants to draft the next Roethlisberger, I'll let him.
You mean a guy who was expected to win the heisman his final year of college and dropped to the Steelers? I'm not excited by that.

Cowhers complete QB history is annoying more than anything. He hardly had anything to do with Roethlisberger other than making a fairly easy pick.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:23 PM   #5
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You mean a guy who was expected to win the heisman his final year of college and dropped to the Steelers? I'm not excited by that.

Cowhers complete QB history is annoying more than anything. He hardly had anything to do with Roethlisberger other than making a fairly easy pick.
Expected to win the Heisman? By who?

Jason White's name was attached the entire year, and the only other guy that even had a chance was Larry Fitzgerald.

And I'm not sure how Ben "dropped" to 11, considering he was never considered an equal of Manning or Rivers.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:34 PM   #6
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Expected to win the Heisman? By who?

Jason White's name was attached the entire year, and the only other guy that even had a chance was Larry Fitzgerald.

And I'm not sure how Ben "dropped" to 11, considering he was never considered an equal of Manning or Rivers.
Going into his final season, he was the favorite. In his first game vs Iowa, the Iowa defense destroyed those chances, and he never rebounded. Come on man.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:23 PM   #7
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You mean a guy who was expected to win the heisman his final year of college and dropped to the Steelers? I'm not excited by that.

Cowhers complete QB history is annoying more than anything. He hardly had anything to do with Roethlisberger other than making a fairly easy pick.
You're not excited by Roethlisberger? That wouldn't be good enough in KC?

As Chiefs fans, we should be well aware that drafting a QB is never "easy" for some people or organizations. 30 years tells us this.

The Heisman probably wasn't ever coming out of Miami of Ohio. But let's say he actually was a viable contender, which he wasn't: doesn't that sound similar to Geno Smith talk? Heisman hopeful who "disappointed"?

And we sure as **** know that, should the Chiefs select him, it will be anything but an "easy choice," though hindsight might suggest otherwise.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:28 PM   #8
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You're not excited by Roethlisberger? That wouldn't be good enough in KC?

As Chiefs fans, we should be well aware that drafting a QB is never "easy" for some people or organizations. 30 years tells us this.

The Heisman probably wasn't ever coming out of Miami of Ohio. But let's say he actually was a viable contender, which he wasn't: doesn't that sound similar to Geno Smith talk? Heisman hopeful who "disappointed"?

And we sure as **** know that, should the Chiefs select him, it will be anything but an "easy choice" in hindsight.
The point is a fair one. Did Cowher beg for big Ben? Or was it luck that he fell that low? Despite drafting him, big Ben was a game manager under Cowher. He became a passer after Cowher left. I'd be much more excited by Gruden or Holmgren. I have much more confidence in them to develop a QB.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:36 PM   #9
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You're not by Roeth rger? That wouldn't be good enough in KC?

As Chiefs fans, we should be well aware that drafting a QB is never "eas. y" for some people or organizations. 30 years tells us this.

The Heisman probably wasn't ever coming out of Miami of Ohio. But let's say he actually was a viable contender, which he wasn't: doesn't that sound similar to Geno Smith talk? Heisman hopeful who "disappointed"?

And we sure as **** know that, should the Chiefs select him, it will be anything but an "easy choice," though hindsight might suggest otherwise.
Are you dense? I'm not excited byt Cowhers ability to find a QB. Roethlisberger was an easy pick. Who I might add, Cowherd had little to do with his success IMO
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:19 PM   #10
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:21 PM   #11
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I'm glad he hasn't contacted Andy Reid. Stay the hell away from that.

And I'm gonna hate life if it's Cowher.
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I'm glad he hasn't contacted Andy Reid. Stay the hell away from that.

And I'm gonna hate life if it's Cowher.
You know, Cowher isn't my first choice either - but considering Clark isn't going to go the Gamble, Dorsey or Ross route, it might be the best option left.

Two things will decide how I view the Cowher hire, should it happen.

He better draft a QB at 1.1.

I want to see that he's able and willing to adapt to the fact this is a passing league. If he comes out with his RRPP bullshit trying to win games 10-7 like it's 1995 - I'm done.

I also hope to hell he surrounds himself with a great scouting department, because his draft history is spotty at best.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:38 PM   #13
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You know, Cowher isn't my first choice either - but considering Clark isn't going to go the Gamble, Dorsey or Ross route, it might be the best option left.

Two things will decide how I view the Cowher hire, should it happen.

He better draft a QB at 1.1.

I want to see that he's able and willing to adapt to the fact this is a passing league. If he comes out with his RRPP bullshit trying to win games 10-7 like it's 1995 - I'm done.

I also hope to hell he surrounds himself with a great scouting department, because his draft history is spotty at best.
Pretty much how I feel.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:39 PM   #14
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Pretty much how I feel.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:42 PM   #15
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Everyone jizzed their shorts over Jim Zorn.

Why?

He was a QB guy. He'll fix everything.


You don't need a QB guy as the HC.

You need the right QB - and that requires good scouting, not a guy like Mike Holmgren who coached the position when Noah was loading the ark.
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