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Old 02-26-2014, 11:47 AM  
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"The way it looks now back-up Geoff Schwartz ... will likely sign elsewhere."
So says the guy who runs draftinsider.net, Tony Pauline, talking to people all week at the Combine:

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I'm told Branden Albert may not be the only veteran offensive lineman out the door in Kansas City. The way it looks now back-up Geoff Schwartz, who received heavy interest at the combine, will likely sign elsewhere.

Follow Tony Pauline @TonyPauline.
He's also reporting the rumor that the Raiders want to try to re-sign McFadden, but they are unlikely to pull it off.
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Old 02-27-2014, 04:30 PM   #151
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My thing about keeping him is so we stop this rotating door of offensive line bodies. For once I'd like to see us keep the same starting offensive line from one year to the next. I'd also like to see all the guys not be rookies or broke dick veterans.

I'm also sick and ****ing tired of pissing away draft picks on the offensive line.

The offensive line is one area where I hope we spend money to keep guys together and build it up to be a strong unit. If Schwartz goes and Asamoah goes (who wasn't all that valuable anyway) we've got Rishaw ****ing Johnson on the roster who would take the starting spot.

We could go out and get a free agent guy, but why spend money on him but not Schwartz, who has already played for us and is familiar with the team?

People always bitch about the lack of chemistry on the offensive line, and they seem to be shocked every year that they don't play well. Yet in the offseason there's all this championing for replacing dudes as much as possible and not spending money on (what they claim to be important) positions like LT.
I agree. But I recognize that for the most part, Schwartz is JAG in the NFL. We forget that Asamoah played really well in 2012 when we played ZBS. He only allowed 2 sacks that whole season. If we started the season with the same line scheme we ended with, most likely he would have remained the starter and we would have never heard of Schwartz.
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:25 PM   #152
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won't happen but either Roger Saffold or Michael Oher would make a kick ass Guard
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:29 PM   #153
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My initial reaction is born from the scars on my soul from the previous administrations.


Dorsey earned enough respect last year in his signings that I'm going to trust their judgement. If he goes, there is a reason. FA hasn't even really gotten a good start to rumors let alone signings.

Let this man work his mojo. I'll give them until about September to start questioning player signing judgement.
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:42 PM   #154
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We forget that Asamoah played really well in 2012 when we played ZBS. He only allowed 2 sacks that whole season.
Not a popular opinion around here but I absolutely agree.
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:45 PM   #155
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I'd say Asamoah is on the first plane to Atlanta as soon as possible with Pioli there and their obvious OL needs
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Old 02-28-2014, 12:15 AM   #156
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For anyone current on the rules, will we get a compensatory draft pick if Schwartz signs elsewhere?
Comp picks are awarded to teams that lost more "qualifying free agents" than they signed over the course of each offseason.

A "qualifying free agent" is a player that was on your roster the entire year and entered free agency due to his contract expiring.

So if we lose

Albert
Jackson
Abdullah
Schwartz
Asamoah
McCluster
Demps
Lewis

To free agency and sign no "qualifying free agents" to replace them with, we would get a comp pick for each of them.

The comp picks range from rounds 3-7 and the things that impact the quality of the comp pick awarded the most are playing time and contract amount.
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Old 02-28-2014, 12:19 AM   #157
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The Chiefs aren't going to go into the season with Rashaw Johnson and the often injured Eric Fisher as the starters. Dorsey better sign or draft a right guard who can also play tackle.

The nice thing about Schwartz is he's a guy who takes up 1 roster spot but can play 2 positions.
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Old 02-28-2014, 01:21 AM   #158
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There's little question Winston was the alpha male on that OL when he was here.

Just a huge vacuum of guys willing to step up and be the man.

Doesn't help that we brought in a very low key, laissez faire QB.
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Old 02-28-2014, 06:50 AM   #159
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The Chiefs aren't going to go into the season with Rashaw Johnson and the often injured Eric Fisher as the starters. Dorsey better sign or draft a right guard who can also play tackle.

The nice thing about Schwartz is he's a guy who takes up 1 roster spot but can play 2 positions.
We have plenty of options. You can easily bump Hudson, Allen, Rokevius Watkins, Rishaw Johnson. Hudson and Kush compete for Center. Now we just need depth at Tackle.

We can get both Guard and Tackle depth through the draft, the scrap pile, and cheap free agent pickups. To SNR's point... you don't have to use your first two rounds to get that either.
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Comp picks are awarded to teams that lost more "qualifying free agents" than they signed over the course of each offseason.

A "qualifying free agent" is a player that was on your roster the entire year and entered free agency due to his contract expiring.

So if we lose

Albert
Jackson
Abdullah
Schwartz
Asamoah
McCluster
Demps
Lewis

To free agency and sign no "qualifying free agents" to replace them with, we would get a comp pick for each of them.

The comp picks range from rounds 3-7 and the things that impact the quality of the comp pick awarded the most are playing time and contract amount.
Isn't there a maximum of four awarded?
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Old 02-28-2014, 07:40 AM   #161
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We have plenty of options. You can easily bump Hudson, Allen, Rokevius Watkins, Rishaw Johnson. Hudson and Kush compete for Center. Now we just need depth at Tackle.

We can get both Guard and Tackle depth through the draft, the scrap pile, and cheap free agent pickups. To SNR's point... you don't have to use your first two rounds to get that either.
You don't have to.

But they probably will.
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Old 02-28-2014, 07:45 AM   #162
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You don't have to.

But they probably will.
If we truly believe what we've been saying for years that the team needs to build through the draft, then we shouldn't be panicking about a Guard leaving the team. I would rather put our money on playmakers.
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If we truly believe what we've been saying for years that the team needs to build through the draft, then we shouldn't be panicking about a Guard leaving the team. I would rather put our money on playmakers.
I'd rather put everything on playmakers.

I'm sick and ****ing tired of drafting linemen in the 1st round.
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Old 02-28-2014, 07:53 AM   #164
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I'd rather put everything on playmakers.

I'm sick and ****ing tired of drafting linemen in the 1st round.
I would like to see us use a lot of late round picks and undrafted picks on positions like linemen. We should hopefully get to the point where every year, we have a young option to replace an expensive one. And you don't need big dollars or high draft picks to find good linemen.

I'm surprised at how many people on this thread are panicking about losing Schwartz. If people are so gung ho about not drafting a Guard in the first round, then they shouldn't hold the position in such high regard that we'd panic over losing one.
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Old 02-28-2014, 07:57 AM   #165
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I'm at that point too. Last year's pick really bothered me.
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