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Old 10-30-2016, 02:25 PM  
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Time for Dee Ford haters to eat some crow
7 sacks in 7 games this year. Technically 8 if not for Tamba being a dumbass last week.

11 sacks in 14 games started in his career.

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Old 10-31-2016, 04:27 PM   #151
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That's not what Chiefshrink told me. He said that it was common for young guys like Dadi and Ehinger to bulk up a lot during the season.
He said that it's common for a player to gain a third or more in strength during a season.
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Old 10-31-2016, 04:34 PM   #152
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No, no no.

Sacks only count when they come against good pass rushers. Because Von Miller gets all his sacks against Tyron Smith and Joe Thomas.

Offenses are run right now in a way where credible tackles just don't give up many sacks. Fisher's only given up 1 or 2 this year, right? And he's merely good; but no means great.

Good players get fat against bad players and hold their own against other good players. That's what we've seen from Ford this year. The other guy gets paid to play as well. The league is pro-offense so to act like a defensive player should be beating up on similarly talented offensive players is just ignoring the way the league has trended of late.
Von Miller is an elite player. There arent many of him. We all have to admit, he's the best rushing linebacker in the league. Not everyone can be at that level. Im not saying dee ford cant beat a great LT, but its not going to be easy. The Chiefs have had beast olines through the years and not many players dominated guys like Roaf. Its hard to do regardless of who was on the other side.

Anyways, Ford is doing what he's supposed to do. He's getting better and he's starting to make an impact on the game. Keep moving forward youngster.
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Old 10-31-2016, 05:29 PM   #153
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That's not what Chiefshrink told me. He said that it was common for young guys like Dadi and Ehinger to bulk up a lot during the season.
Chiefshrink was the only person alive who watched Alex Smith get KO'd and said "If he'd just bulked up in-season with some shrugs he'd have been fine!"
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Old 10-31-2016, 06:26 PM   #154
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It's pretty clear that most of this forum doesn't know how to react.

For the duration of the offseason, a majority of members have slammed the fact that Dorsey didn't re-sign Sean Smith and that he didn't bring in more pass rushers or cornerbacks. The majority thought the defense was going to be a Work In Progress and that the offense was going to be amazing and make up for it.
Disagree with the red. Agree with the green. I don't think most of the forum was mad Smith didn't get that contract from us. I think a lot, like me, thought it would be a bumpy transition over the course of the year, hence green being correct. I think a decent amount of us viewed Smith leaving as a 1 step back, 2 steps forward move. For the long-term health of the team, it was the right move. And if you told us Gaines would have been this banged up, the concern level would have been even higher. More kudos to the secondary for that.

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Kicked dog syndrome.

Though there does remain real room for conversation at QB. Sure, the offense looked better yesterday but it tended to look its best with Foles under center. Now, for the good plays Foles made downfield, he missed on some short passes that Smith wouldn't have and it impacted the scoreboard. But there's a real discussion as to whether that improvement downfield more than offset the losses short and the lost mobility (though Smith's not looking as spry these days either).

Man it would've been nice had that game happened just like that with Smith in charge. And really, it might have - Smith went deep twice in his first 3 attempts, correct? There was clearly a commitment to the deep ball. And neither throw to Hill was amazing - the first was a badly underthrown ball that Hill did a nice job adjusting and shielding the DB and the second was just badly blown coverage for an easy pitch and catch. They weren't exactly signs of a sustainable downfield model.

There are still unanswered questions on offense.
Smith did look like he wanted to go deep yesterday, and did. I do think he would have pushed the ball like Foles. Maybe not as much, and as you said, what would his success rate have been.
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Old 11-06-2016, 02:06 PM   #155
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Old 11-06-2016, 02:35 PM   #156
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Old 11-06-2016, 03:30 PM   #157
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He didn't do a damn thing while earning millions the first couple years, but credit where credit is due. He's balling right now, and our pass rush is going to be a real bitch for opposing QBs once J Houston starts rounding into form.
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Old 11-06-2016, 03:46 PM   #158
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I hope he keeps it up when Houston plays again. Because Ford is gonna have to shift over and play against LT's. That is gonna be a tougher task. Can't expect the sack numbers to stay where they are. But still gonna need to see an impact however possible.
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I was patient with Ford and it's paid off. Some of these guys take awhile to develop.
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Old 11-06-2016, 03:48 PM   #160
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I hope he keeps it up when Houston plays again. Because Ford is gonna have to shift over and play against LT's. That is gonna be a tougher task. Can't expect the sack numbers to stay where they are. But still gonna need to see an impact however possible.
actually we can slide the Dline around and bring Ford off the right side if we wanted to

It would require some effort by Sutton though
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Old 11-06-2016, 04:06 PM   #162
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I stayed firm with my belief in Ford and almost laughed when people were suggesting starting zombo or Nicholas.

it was pretty obvious even with a small sample size how much talent he had and that he just needed playing time.

I chose him as my break break out player at the beginning of the season and I've been dead to rights..

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He's looking good. 9 sacks in 8 games? That's elite. I know that Buffalo doesn't play until Monday night, but Ford is tied with Lorenzo Alexander and is a half game up on VonDouchebag. And they have all played 8 games because Dungver and Buffalo haven't had their bye week yet.
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Ecstatic about Dee Ford's progress and it warms my heart and stirs my loins to think of a built up Dee Ford coupled with a rejuvenated Justin Houston.
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