Teicher: No changes in defensive coaching staff

tk13 · 01-18-2005, 02:28 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/10668159.htm

Vermeil: Defensive coaches staying

By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star

Despite pressure to improve a defense that finished next to last in yards allowed, Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil said Monday that he will make no changes to his defensive staff.

Vermeil was encouraged by president/general manager Carl Peterson to make some moves, particularly at defensive back. Peter Giunta and Vernon Dean coached a secondary that allowed more passing yards than any other NFL team.

Vermeil took the two weeks since the Chiefs' season-ending loss in San Diego to ponder changes. He returned to his Arrowhead Stadium office Monday, saying that while all of his assistants would be welcome to return, he also expected better results next season.

“The only way any football coach is evaluated is on how many games they won,” Vermeil said. “Since we won only seven games, everybody on this staff, including me, is evaluated as below average. An 8-8 record would have meant we were average.”

Although the Chiefs played poorly on defense since he joined the Chiefs in 2001, Vermeil has remained steadfastly loyal to his assistants. He resisted pressure from Peterson to replace coordinator Greg Robinson two years ago.

The only defensive staff changes were made last year when Vermeil accepted Robinson's resignation and linebackers coach Joe Vitt left for the Rams.

Giunta and Dean are under scrutiny after many of the defensive backs had poor seasons. The play of safeties Greg Wesley and Jerome Woods slipped noticeably. Young cornerbacks William Bartee and Julian Battle failed to develop into reliable players.

Vermeil said his coaches weren't to blame.

“Peter Giunta is no more guilty now than he was 100 percent responsible for the Super Bowl championship defense and the secondary he coached with the Rams,” Vermeil said. “They coached the players we give them to coach to the best of their ability. Do I blame them if a guy blows a coverage or breaks down fundamentally? No.

“If I thought they were doing a poor job of that, I would handle that. But I don't think that's true.”

Vermeil last year replaced Robinson with Gunther Cunningham and Vitt with Fred Pagac, but otherwise made few changes to defensive personnel. The Chiefs were even worse defensively. They allowed 103 more points and 330 additional yards and forced 17 fewer turnovers.

The Chiefs would have a second offensive staff departure if quarterback coach Jason Verduzco departs. He is a candidate to become offensive coordinator on Robinson's staff at Syracuse, where he recently became head coach.

Tight-ends coach Keith Rowen left two weeks ago to become offensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals. He is replaced by Terry Shea, a former Chiefs assistant who spent one year with Chicago.

01-18-2005, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

“The only way any football coach is evaluated is on how many games they won,” Vermeil said. “Since we won only seven games, everybody on this staff, including me, is evaluated as below average. An 8-8 record would have meant we were average.”

The ****?!?! The only way a football coach is evaluated on MY staff is how they performed on their ****ing side of the ball. #31 out of 32 is slightly below ****ing average. Slightly.

I'm growing less fond of Dick Vermeil by the hour.

Pants · 01-18-2005, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

The ****?!?! The only way a football coach is evaluated on MY staff is how they performed on their ****ing side of the ball. #31 out of 32 is slightly below ****ing average. Slightly.

I'm growing less fond of Dick Vermeil by the hour.

What he said.

**KcMizzou** · 01-18-2005, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

I'm growing less fond of Dick Vermeil by the hour.

I'm a homer by nature, but I agree. We've got to do something... anything. If they pull off a big FA move or two, at least I'll feel like they tried. This is really getting depressing. We'll see...

Calcountry · 01-18-2005, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

I'm a homer by nature, but I agree. We've got to do something... anything. If they pull off a big FA move or two, at least I'll feel like they tried. This is really getting depressing. We'll see...

I am afraid that DV is loyal to a fault, and has thrown down the gauntlet to Carl.

Something like, if I can't have the coaches that I want, then I am the first to go.

Well, Dick, just go.

go bo · 01-18-2005, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

The ****?!?! The only way a football coach is evaluated on MY staff is how they performed on their ****ing side of the ball. #31 out of 32 is slightly below ****ing average. Slightly.

I'm growing less fond of Dick Vermeil by the hour.

just slightly?

i have a bad feeling about next year if they aren't gonna change some, if not all, of the defensive coaches except gun and the d-line coach...

teedubya · 01-18-2005, 02:33 AM

GUNTA needs to go, our dbacks suck ass, hello.

tk13 · 01-18-2005, 02:34 AM

Yeah, this should cause a riot. I will be famous on ChiefsPlanet for starting a riot.

Actually, hopefully that this is a bit of good news in that he pretty much says we have to get the coaches better players to coach.... hopefully.....

01-18-2005, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Actually, hopefully that this is a bit of good news in that he pretty much says we have to get the coaches better players to coach.... hopefully.....

I didn't get to that part before my head exploded.

If it were possible to be top 5 in the league in defense and offense and STILL go 7-9, Dick Vermeil would be talking about how his coaches were amongst the top ****ing 5 in the league instead of below average.

He is such a gunt. Wow, that pisses me off. Does he think people are really that stupid?

tk13 · 01-18-2005, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

I didn't get to that part before my head exploded.

If it were possible to be top 5 in the league in defense and offense and STILL go 7-9, Dick Vermeil would be talking about how his coaches were amongst the top ****ing 5 in the league instead of below average.

He is such a gunt. Wow, that pisses me off. Does he think people are really that stupid?

Yeah, this is really the only good part of the article I imagine in most people's minds...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vermeil

“They coached the players we give them to coach to the best of their ability."

I think it's pretty obvious what that means, hopefully they follow through. I think they will.

go bo · 01-18-2005, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Yeah, this is really the only good part of the article I imagine in most people's minds...

I think it's pretty obvious what that means, hopefully they follow through. I think they will.

yeah, and you're a blind homer...

worse, you're an optimistic blind homer...

go bo · 01-18-2005, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia

I didn't get to that part before my head exploded.

If it were possible to be top 5 in the league in defense and offense and STILL go 7-9, Dick Vermeil would be talking about how his coaches were amongst the top ****ing 5 in the league instead of below average.

He is such a gunt. Wow, that pisses me off. Does he think people are really that stupid?

apparently...

Hammock Parties · 01-18-2005, 02:37 AM

Well, I guess we can look forward to 8-8 next year.

01-18-2005, 02:38 AM

I swear to God the next time I see Dick Vermeil in public, rather than shaking his hand, I will kick him in the shins. Mark my words. I may chicken out at the last moment and make it appear as though it were an accident, but either way DICK VERMEIL WILL BE RUBBING HIS SHINS AND CRYING.

teedubya · 01-18-2005, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

I swear to God the next time I see Dick Vermeil in public, rather than shaking his hand, I will kick him in the shins. Mark my words. I may chicken out at the last moment and make it appear as though it were an accident, but either way DICK VERMEIL WILL BE RUBBING HIS SHINS AND CRYING.

hah haah...

yeah, Im all excited about the 2006 season. Perhaps I should change my avatar to 2006? heh.

01-18-2005, 02:28 AM	Topic Starter
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1667500	Teicher: No changes in defensive coaching staff http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/10668159.htm Vermeil: Defensive coaches staying By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star Despite pressure to improve a defense that finished next to last in yards allowed, Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil said Monday that he will make no changes to his defensive staff. Vermeil was encouraged by president/general manager Carl Peterson to make some moves, particularly at defensive back. Peter Giunta and Vernon Dean coached a secondary that allowed more passing yards than any other NFL team. Vermeil took the two weeks since the Chiefs' season-ending loss in San Diego to ponder changes. He returned to his Arrowhead Stadium office Monday, saying that while all of his assistants would be welcome to return, he also expected better results next season. “The only way any football coach is evaluated is on how many games they won,” Vermeil said. “Since we won only seven games, everybody on this staff, including me, is evaluated as below average. An 8-8 record would have meant we were average.” Although the Chiefs played poorly on defense since he joined the Chiefs in 2001, Vermeil has remained steadfastly loyal to his assistants. He resisted pressure from Peterson to replace coordinator Greg Robinson two years ago. The only defensive staff changes were made last year when Vermeil accepted Robinson's resignation and linebackers coach Joe Vitt left for the Rams. Giunta and Dean are under scrutiny after many of the defensive backs had poor seasons. The play of safeties Greg Wesley and Jerome Woods slipped noticeably. Young cornerbacks William Bartee and Julian Battle failed to develop into reliable players. Vermeil said his coaches weren't to blame. “Peter Giunta is no more guilty now than he was 100 percent responsible for the Super Bowl championship defense and the secondary he coached with the Rams,” Vermeil said. “They coached the players we give them to coach to the best of their ability. Do I blame them if a guy blows a coverage or breaks down fundamentally? No. “If I thought they were doing a poor job of that, I would handle that. But I don't think that's true.” Vermeil last year replaced Robinson with Gunther Cunningham and Vitt with Fred Pagac, but otherwise made few changes to defensive personnel. The Chiefs were even worse defensively. They allowed 103 more points and 330 additional yards and forced 17 fewer turnovers. The Chiefs would have a second offensive staff departure if quarterback coach Jason Verduzco departs. He is a candidate to become offensive coordinator on Robinson's staff at Syracuse, where he recently became head coach. Tight-ends coach Keith Rowen left two weeks ago to become offensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals. He is replaced by Terry Shea, a former Chiefs assistant who spent one year with Chicago.
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01-18-2005, 02:38 AM	#14
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	I swear to God the next time I see Dick Vermeil in public, rather than shaking his hand, I will kick him in the shins. Mark my words. I may chicken out at the last moment and make it appear as though it were an accident, but either way DICK VERMEIL WILL BE RUBBING HIS SHINS AND CRYING.
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