Cassel or Sanchez?

[philfree]

I've heared all the financial reason why the Chiefs shouldn't draft Curry at #3 and same goes for drafting another OT. Would those things be any worse then giving $20mil plus guaranteed money to a QB who only has 16 starts?


PhilFree

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Give me an example of a conventional 4-3 LBer that is built like a 3-4 OLB/DE. Traditional 4-3 OLBs are 220 lbs.

I asked you to give me an example of a QB coming out of college with 1 year experience a year early that succeeded in the NFL. It wasn't a reasonable arguement in that context for you. Why do you try to use it here?

I'm not sure that I fully understand. The point is completely relevant. Vrabel, Suggs, Ware, Merriman, Woodley, Wimbley... these are all DEs who became 3-4 OLBs.

[KCBOSS1]

Just sayin, there haven't been many defensive guys come down the pipe with the size, strength and speed of Curry. I just think he could fly off of the edge well. But then again, getting off the snap would be the deal eh?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by KCBOSS1

Just sayin, there haven't been many defensive guys come down the pipe with the size, strength and speed of Curry. I just think he could fly off of the edge well. But then again, getting off the snap would be the deal eh?

Actually, there is usually a LB that is a similar prospect to Curry every year...he's not a once in a lifetime player he's the LB that usually goes between 8-12 every year he's being pumped up because he's safe in a weak year.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by KCBOSS1

Just sayin, there haven't been many defensive guys come down the pipe with the size, strength and speed of Curry. I just think he could fly off of the edge well. But then again, getting off the snap would be the deal eh?

I think the bigger deal is that there is a lot of technique to getting through the trenches and pass rushing moves. DE is one of the more difficult positions to learn in the NFL level.

The deal is that as a 3-4 OLB, you have to be a solid DE but only have to be marginally good at a lot of the typical OLB stuff (having good range and being good in coverage). That's why you want a DE that plays OLB moreso than you want an OLB that plays DE.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by KCBOSS1

I realize that we are where we are, but the more I see about Sanchez, the more I'm afraid that a few years down the road, we may look back and realize that we passed up on the franchise guy that we've been looking for. I know that Cassel played ok last year, but is he a franchise guy? ...likely not. Thoughts?

Alright KCBOSS1, it's time for a little thing I call "Tales Of The Tape". Enough words, let's have some action:

[Mecca]

That's because Willie McGinest was a defensive end in college....

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Well, ****, sounds like we should be able to get a handful of these guys. Why haven't we already?

Sounds easy enough.

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And put a leprechaun with a pot of gold on that list too, goddamnit!

[Mecca]

I hope I never hear about Aaron Curry again, either that or I'm going to laugh my ass off when he's playing ILB and getting no sacks and people are going "why isn't he outside rushing the passer!"

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I hope I never hear about Aaron Curry again, either that or I'm going to laugh my ass off when he's playing ILB and getting no sacks and people are going "why isn't he outside rushing the passer!"

Shit. I'd be ecstatic if that was the case. Like this team couldn't use a decent ILB. And that gives us an excuse to go after Selvie next year.

And if this franchise could get another Willie Lanier, I'm not going to complain at all. Zero. Nada. Nilch. Nyet. Nein. (And if you want to talk about comparing players, Curry and Lanier have got a lot in common in their game and on the field make up.)

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Shit. I'd be ecstatic if that was the case. Like this team couldn't use a decent ILB. And that gives us an excuse to go after Selvie next year.

And if this franchise could get another Willie Lanier, I'm not going to complain at all. Zero. Nada. Nilch. Nyet. Nein. (And if you want to talk about comparing players, Curry and Lanier have got a lot in common in their game and on the field make up.)

Don't even try to make that comparison.

Willie brought an intensity to the game that Curry hasn't even dreamed about.
Willie was a fierce hitter that made you drop your jaw.

Curry is a solid fundamentally sound tackler, but he isn't a bone crusher like Willie.

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by KCBOSS1

I realize that we are where we are, but the more I see about Sanchez, the more I'm afraid that a few years down the road, we may look back and realize that we passed up on the franchise guy that we've been looking for. I know that Cassel played ok last year, but is he a franchise guy? ...likely not. Thoughts?

SANCHEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cassel will suck just watch and see. And when he does I would love for all the peeps on here that are anointing him the man to admit they have poor judgment. If I'm wrong I have no problem admitting that and will be happy. I am afraid he will suck and again i'll be watching a comedy show instead of a legit NFL team. You don't know how much I hope I'm wrong.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I hope I never hear about Aaron Curry again, either that or I'm going to laugh my ass off when he's playing ILB and getting no sacks and people are going "why isn't he outside rushing the passer!"

Oh I have a list. Draft bust championed by idiots is the sweetest nectar of revenge in all of in-house fandom.

Originally Posted by MadMax

SANCHEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cassel will suck just watch and see. And when he does I would love for all the peeps on here that are anointing him the man to admit they have poor judgment. If I'm wrong I have no problem admitting that and will be happy. I am afraid he will suck and again i'll be watching a comedy show instead of a legit NFL team. You don't know how much I hope I'm wrong.

What Max said.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Oh I have a list. Draft bust championed by idiots is the sweetest nectar of revenge in all of in-house fandom.




What Max said.

He won't be a pass rusher, but I think he's really unlikely to be a bust.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Messier

He won't be a pass rusher, but I think he's really unlikely to be a bust.

That really isn't the reason to use a top 3 pick on someone that's like going "Lets take a OT if he sucks atleast he can play guard"