Peter King: The Chiefs will never take a safety that high

[dirk digler]

I hope that ****nut is wrong but I am sure I will be disappointed if Berry is there and they pass unless they decide to draft Clausen.

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I noticed last night SI's Peter King was tweeting up a storm at his Twitter account about all things football for a few hours. One very interesting observation came out of him that I think would surprise a lot of us here.
Someone suggested the Chiefs trade with the Dolphins, who are in need of a playmaking safety. King, who agreed with a Miami/Kansas City trade scenario, had this to say:

"And KC would never take [safety] that high."

Now, King's one of the best in the business when it comes to sports reporting, especially the NFL and that sounds like a pretty definitive statement.

With that said, I see his logic. Scott Pioli has always struck me as a guy who's more likely to build from the inside out meaning the focus is on the offensive and defensive lines.

Just something to keep in mind as we inch toward April.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

JFC... SaccoOkung says he's a guard, so by God, he's a guard. Nevermind the past two seasons in the NFL as a LT.....

No, I said he WAS a guard. For his entire college career. That played right next to first round left tackles Fergusson and Monroe.

I fully understand that, after playing his entire career as a guard, that he has played at LT the past two seasons.

It's the same with Dorsey. He was a defensive tackle for his entire career. Now he's a defensive end.

I understand that positions can change based on team needs and personnel (or lack thereof). Such is the case with Albert and Dorsey. I'm sure they and the team are going to be just fine.

[Fish]

I'll bet the Vikings reach for a DE this year too. That way they'll be able to move Allen back to long snapper, his more natural college position.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

It wasn't Herm's vision that Albert was a left tackle. It was the vision of MANY well-informed football people including ANDY REID because the Eagles wanted to draft Albert in the first round.

The guy lost so much weight that he's not gonna be nearly as effective at guard now. And he would have been a LEFT TACKLE in college had he not played with D'Brickashaw Ferguson. And by the way, he played two games in college at left tackle, so you're wrong, again.

Like I said, if your happy with the switch to tackle and think that his performance is worthy of a first round selection and don't think that the position needs to be addressed sooner rather than later, fine. Then we should draft a safety with a top five pick rather than a left tackle and hope that we can get two quality guards, a center and a right tackle later in the draft.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I'm not opposed to drafting a QB, I just think that:

A. He should have shit tons of potential.
B. Make sure we draft the QB position before giving him a solid line to work behind.

Love,
Drafturbators

(This post was approved of by the David Carr Fan Club)

Because there are posts where "drafturbators" have said "B."

Oh, yeah, why did most "drafturbators" not like the Carr selection?

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

I'll bet the Vikings reach for a DE this year too. That way they'll be able to move Allen back to long snapper, his more natural college position.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Like I said, if your happy with the switch to tackle and think that his performance is worthy of a first round selection and don't think that the position needs to be addressed sooner rather than later, fine. Then we should draft a safety with a top five pick rather than a left tackle and hope that we can get two quality guards, a center and a right tackle later in the draft.

You want to rebuild the entire line in one draft.

You're hopeless.

[Goldmember]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

We'll see what happens.

But if we end up passing on Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez AND Jimmy Clausen, we deserve exactly what we get.

I think Flacco would have been shell shocked into oblivion by now with that crappy line, a crappy running game and avg receivers.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Oh, yeah, why did most "drafturbators" not like the Carr selection?

Probably because he didn't come from a BCS conference/school that ran a "pro style" set.

Personally, I don't know why you guys aren't pimping every player from Georgia Tech. Talk about running old school, true pro-style sets! The wishbone used to be the absolute bomb in the NFL!

I wonder what you Flat Earth Society members would have thought about the forward pass back in the day...

"You can't pick a ****ing QB from a school that is using that new fandangled forward pass bullshit! Those forward pass monkeys will never play in the NFL in a pro-style wishbone set! You are a ****ing idiot!"

[the Talking Can]

it's pointless


that fact that we spent a first rounder on our LT just two years ago means nothing to saccofbats....he'll never admit it


the only way we can build a superbowl team is to spend another first round pick on the same exact position that is currently manned by a first round pick...because you have to have a first pick at LT, and just because we already have one doesn't mean we have one, and so we need to draft another one even though we have one, but don't really have one....get it?



but we can't draft a QB....ever..20 years and counting and it is never "safe" enough for the idiots that constitute our fanbase...

or a great player at a position of ACTUAL need...Berry


nope..we just have to keep burning our 1st round picks on LT until sackofbats thinks one is cute enough....

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Goldmember

I think Flacco would have been shell shocked into oblivion by now with that crappy line, a crappy running game and avg receivers.

So we should keep passing on quarterbacks until the rest of the team is awesome?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Like I said, if your happy with the switch to tackle and think that his performance is worthy of a first round selection and don't think that the position needs to be addressed sooner rather than later, fine. Then we should draft a safety with a top five pick rather than a left tackle and hope that we can get two quality guards, a center and a right tackle later in the draft.

Picking Berry over Okung is a no-brainer IMO.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I wonder what you Flat Earth Society members would have thought about the forward pass back in the day...

I agree. Let's be revolutionary, cutting edge, exceptionally creative:

Okung (or any other LT)!

Irony, how I loveth thou so.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

You want to rebuild the entire line in one draft.

You're hopeless.

Okay. Then I follow your lead and hope we get a good guard with one of our fifth round picks. We can pick up a center in free agency (Hey! Weigmann! Bingo!) and focus on the right tackle spot in 2011 with a sixth rounder. Brown is our RGOTF, and Albert will anchor this line for the next decade.

We'll focus on getting a pass rusher to back up Hali, an MLB/ILB to back up Belcher and Johnson, another safety to back up Page, a nose tackle to back up Smith and a punt returner.

Super Bowl, here we come!

[Goldmember]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

So we should keep passing on quarterbacks until the rest of the team is awesome?

The majority of highly touted QBs fail to hit it big in the NFL and become mediocre. They need support around them the first few years. The Chiefs were woeful in the support area on offense the last few years.

Look, I agree that we need a franchise QB. Cassel was a slight upgrade over thigpen and croyle imo. I trusted Pioli knew what he was doing when he brought him in, but then he drafted Tyson Jackson and I began to doubt his ability to judge talent.

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by Goldmember

The majority of highly touted QBs fail to hit it big in the NFL and become mediocre. They need support around them the first few years. The Chiefs were woeful in the support area on offense the last few years.

Look, I agree that we need a franchise QB. Cassel was a slight upgrade over thigpen and croyle imo. I trusted Pioli knew what he was doing when he brought him in, but then he drafted Tyson Jackson and I began to doubt his ability to judge talent.

but a majority of teams that win a SB do so with a franchise (ie 1st round ) pick.

IMO, that's the main thing.

at #5, there are really only a handful of positions worth of drafting that high.
QB, LT (already have one), DT (already have 2).
arguments can be made for Safety,WR, DB, and RB in some drafts. Of those, there are no top 5 picks in there with the exception of Berry.

so, for me; that leaves QB if you're at 5 and a QB is sitting there.