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Old 12-17-2012, 05:04 PM  
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Another person linking Polian's to KC
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Like Pro Football Weekly, now Jason La Canfora with CBS Sports is saying that the Polian's may be at the top of the Chiefs possible GM list. Polian's (Bill and Chris) are very hands on front office people and of course we know that is how Clark likes it to work (as he is very hands off).
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:41 AM   #166
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I'm not misreading anything.

No coach that has won a Super Bowl with one team has won it again with a different team.

That's a fact. A cold, hard fact.

Get used to it.
It's a fact. The misreading part comes when you attempt to figure out what that fact means.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:43 AM   #167
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“@CoachCox8100: @TonyDungy who should chiefs take with first or 2nd pick in the draft?” I would take Georgia QB Aaron Murray if he comes out
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:24 PM   #168
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We'll get to see how much of that was Dungy and how much of that was Manning. Remember the huge knock on Manning was he could never win the big game.
I'm not sure if it'll be a fair comparison because Manning never enjoyed the kind of defense he has in Denver while in Indy.

As we saw in 2011, Peyton Manning was the only reason why the Colts were competing for Super Bowls during the Dungy/Polian era. Peyton Manning carried those teams and IIRC, the 2009 Super Bowl runner-up Colts had the 29th ranked defense that season.

IMO, the "blame" for lack of Super Bowl appearances during the Polian/Dungy/Manning era lies squarely on the shoulders of Polian and Dungy, not Manning.
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:27 PM   #169
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If Marty had either of those guys he'd have won multiple Super Bowls.
I don't believe that to be true.

His 14-2 San Diego team was loaded with offensive and defensive talent, yet he became extremely conservative, once again, in the playoffs and lost.

Marty is what he is, which is why he hasn't held an NFL head coaching job since 2006.
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:29 PM   #170
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It's a fact. The misreading part comes when you attempt to figure out what that fact means.
It's clear from your answers that you have no idea what I think that fact means.
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:35 PM   #171
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It's clear from your answers that you have no idea what I think that fact means.

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Old 12-19-2012, 12:46 PM   #172
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I'm not sure if it'll be a fair comparison because Manning never enjoyed the kind of defense he has in Denver while in Indy.

As we saw in 2011, Peyton Manning was the only reason why the Colts were competing for Super Bowls during the Dungy/Polian era. Peyton Manning carried those teams and IIRC, the 2009 Super Bowl runner-up Colts had the 29th ranked defense that season.

IMO, the "blame" for lack of Super Bowl appearances during the Polian/Dungy/Manning era lies squarely on the shoulders of Polian and Dungy, not Manning.
No Super Bowl winning QB has ever led a second team to a Super Bowl victory. Therefore, it can't happen. /unserious
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:48 PM   #173
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No Super Bowl winning QB has ever led a second team to a Super Bowl victory. Therefore, it can't happen. /unserious
Is this actually true?
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:48 PM   #174
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No Super Bowl winning QB has ever led a second team to a Super Bowl victory. Therefore, it can't happen. /unserious
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Is this actually true?
Yes. Only two have led a second team to a losing effort in the Superbowl, Kurt Warner (St. Louis, Arizona) and Craig Morton (Dallas, Denver).
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:21 PM   #176
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No Super Bowl winning QB has ever led a second team to a Super Bowl victory. Therefore, it can't happen. /unserious
And you accused me of overreacting.
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No Super Bowl winning QB has ever led a second team to a Super Bowl victory. Therefore, it can't happen. /unserious
That is pretty interesting. Watch Peyton win it all this year
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Yes. Only two have led a second team to a losing effort in the Superbowl, Kurt Warner (St. Louis, Arizona) and Craig Morton (Dallas, Denver).
Scratch Morton off that list. He lost both times.
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I don't believe that to be true.

His 14-2 San Diego team was loaded with offensive and defensive talent, yet he became extremely conservative, once again, in the playoffs and lost.

Marty is what he is, which is why he hasn't held an NFL head coaching job since 2006.
Marty didn't lose the 2006 AFC Title game due to being conservative, he lost it because Marlon McCree was an idiot.

In the final game of the divisional playoffs, the New England Patriots faced the San Diego Chargers team, who were unbeaten at home in the regular season. The Chargers' roster included league MVP running back LaDainian Tomlinson, who broke several league records, nine Pro Bowlers, and five All-Pro players. However, four Chargers turnovers, three of which were converted into Patriots scoring drives, helped lead to a Chargers loss. San Diego lost despite outgaining the Patriots in rushing yards, 148-51 and total yards, 352-327, while also intercepting three passes from Tom Brady.
In the first quarter, after San Diego coach Marty Schottenheimer opted to go for it on 4th-and-11 instead of attempting a 47-yard field goal, quarterback Philip Rivers lost a fumble while being sacked by Mike Vrabel, setting up Stephen Gostkowski's 51-yard field goal with 40 seconds left in the period. In the second quarter, Chargers receiver Eric Parker's 13-yard punt return set up a 48-yard scoring drive that ended with LaDainian Tomlinson's 2-yard touchdown run, giving his team a 7-3 lead. Then, on the Patriots' next drive, linebacker Donnie Edwards intercepted a pass from Brady and returned it to the 41-yard line. But the Chargers ended up punting after Rivers was sacked on third down by defensive back Artrell Hawkins. Later in the quarter, Tomlinson rushed twice for 13 yards and took a screen pass 58 yards to the Patriots' 6-yard line, setting up a 6-yard touchdown run by Michael Turner with 2:04 left in the half. New England responded with a 72-yard scoring drive, with receiver Jabar Gaffney catching four passes for 46 yards, including a 7-yard touchdown reception with six seconds left in the half, cutting their deficit to 14-10.
In the second half, Brady threw his second interception of the game. But once again, the Chargers were forced to punt after Rivers was sacked on third down. Mike Scifres' 36-yard punt pinned New England back at their own 2-yard line, and San Diego subsequently forced a punt, but Parker muffed the kick and New England's David Thomas recovered the fumble at the Chargers' 31-yard line. New England's drive seemed to stall after Brady fumbled on 3rd and 13. Patriots' tackle Matt Light recovered it and Chargers defensive back Drayton Florence drew a 15-yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for taunting Patriots tight end Daniel Graham. The drive continued and Gostkowski eventually kicked a 34-yard field goal to cut their deficit to 14-13. Then, on San Diego's next drive, linebacker Rosevelt Colvin intercepted a pass from Rivers at the New England 36-yard line. The Patriots then drove to the Chargers 41-yard line, but were halted there and had to punt. After the punt, Rivers completed two passes to tight end Antonio Gates for 31 yards and a 31-yard pass to Vincent Jackson, setting up Tomlinson's second rushing touchdown to give the Chargers an 8-point lead, 21-13.
New England responded by driving to San Diego's 41-yard line. On a fourth-down conversion attempt, Brady's pass was intercepted by Marlon McCree, but Troy Brown stripped the ball, and receiver Reche Caldwell recovered it. Schottenheimer unsuccessfully challenged the play and lost a timeout. Four plays later, Brady threw a 4-yard touchdown pass to Caldwell. On the next play, running back Kevin Faulk took a direct snap and scored the two-point conversion, tying the game. Then, after forcing a punt, Brady completed a 19-yard pass to Daniel Graham. Two plays later, Caldwell caught a 49-yard strike down the right sideline to set up Gostkowski's third field goal to give them a 24-21 lead with only 1:10 left in the fourth quarter. With no timeouts left, San Diego drove to the Patriots 36-yard line on their final possession, but Nate Kaeding's 54-yard field goal attempt fell short with three seconds remaining in the game.
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Scratch Morton off that list. He lost both times.
Good point. He's the only other guy to get to a SB with two different teams, but he didn't belong in that post.
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