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Old 12-30-2012, 01:06 PM  
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Schefter: Chiefs leaning towards firing Pioli
Schefter: Chiefs mulling big change
December, 30, 2012
DEC 30 1:50PM ET
By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com


ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported Sunday that he expects the Kansas City Chiefs to fire coach Romeo Crennel.

As for general manager Scott Pioli, Schefter reports the Chiefs -- mired in a miserable 2-13 season -- are leaning toward firing Pioli.

If I had to guess, I’d say both Crennel and Pioli are going to be fired. They are a package deal. I think if the Hunt family had its druthers, it would give both men another chance. But the fan fury is so great in Kansas City, I think the Hunts will be compelled to make a move.

I don’t think firing one of the two and keeping the other will work.

Pioli has hired two coaches -- Todd Haley and Crennel -- since joining the Chiefs in 2009. I don’t necessarily think he will get a chance to hire a third. If that is what is the case, I think the Chiefs will likely make a clean sweep and hire a new general manager (Bill Polian, anyone?) first and then a head coach.

We shall soon see. I don’t think the Hunts will wait long before making a decision.

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Old 12-30-2012, 02:52 PM   #166
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There used to be poster here named Luzap who said he didn't really care if the Chiefs won or lost, he was just happy to have the NFL in KC. He liked going to games. Yeah, winning was nice, but so long as he could cheer for a team ...
And those people comprise Clark's primary market. Unquestionably. The loyal, faithful Chief Sheep.

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Old 12-30-2012, 02:52 PM   #167
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And that is the truth.

If Clark retains Dr. Evil, it's for reasons other than performance as an actual NFL pro football team.

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To Clark, his feelings for Scott clearly are > a winning product and a happy fan base.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:53 PM   #168
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Earlier this year, Kent Babb said that not firing Pioli would be evidence that Hunt is the worst owner in football.

Kind of hard to argue with this logic.
So if he keeps Pioli, what's the leash on him?

Hey he's breaking in a new QB and coach, right? That's gotta be worth another couple of seasons, right?

So 4-12 in 2013, 6-10 in 2014 ... That's some progress.

Dayton ****ing Moore and Scott ****ing Pioli. David ****ing Glass and Clark ****ing Hunt.

WTF am I a fan of these teams?
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:53 PM   #169
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I am a Clark supporter and I couldn't argue it.
I agree. This would be the ownership equivalent of shitting all over the fan base to the point that even Winston would cringe.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:53 PM   #170
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The problem is that, for every informed anti-Piolite, there are dozens (if not hundreds) of Chiefs fans who guzzle the koolaid. Deb ALL CAPS is not alone. We're talking about tailgate addicts who couldn't care less (more or less) about the inner workings of the franchise. They just want to root for their team ... win or lose.

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The Deb type fans are in small minority, just like most of us are in small minority. That middle class fan that wants to see the team do well/have fun at the game/casual fan is the money making machine. Its what Carl Peterson knew the best with the marketing research they had. A dick sucker like Pioli makes it impossible for that for that big casual group as well.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:54 PM   #171
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I am a Clark supporter and I couldn't argue it.
This for me as well.
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There used to be poster here named Luzap who said he didn't really care if the Chiefs won or lost, he was just happy to have the NFL in KC. He liked going to games. Yeah, winning was nice, but so long as he could cheer for a team ...
There is a "name" I haven't heard in a while.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:56 PM   #173
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The Deb type fans are in small minority, just like most of us are in small minority. That middle class fan that wants to see the team do well/have fun at the game/casual fan is the money making machine. Its what Carl Peterson knew the best with the marketing research they had. A dick sucker like Pioli makes it impossible for that for that big casual group as well.
I'm not so sure. Your words of death have an iron-like quality, though, so I'll ponder the issue some more.

Right now, however, I have to believe that the majority of "Chiefs fans" will buy any change (be it HC, QB, whatever) as sufficient to encourage them to pay the fare.

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WTF am I a fan of these teams?
I hear you, and I'm not sure of my reaction. It's easy to say, "I'm done with this franchise."

But this is the type of emotional reaction that might not be honest or realistic. I've been following this piece of shit organization for decades, so this isn't the type of interest that can be turned on or off like a switch.

I understand that Pioli's pomp and incompetence has been eroding passion and general interest, but any organization is far larger than one person...

Tough situation for fans.
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I'm not so sure. Your words of death have an iron-like quality, though, so I'll ponder the issue some more.

Right now, however, I have to believe that the majority of "Chiefs fans" will buy any change (be it HC, QB, whatever) as sufficient to encourage them to pay the fare.

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I will admit, I want to draft a QB SO BAD, I don't know if I will be able to quit watching, even if it is Pioli that is doing the drafting.
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I hear you, and I'm not sure of my reaction. It's easy to say, "I'm done with this franchise."

But this is the type of emotional reaction that might not be honest or realistic. I've been following this piece of shit organization for decades, so this isn't the type of interest that can be turned on or off like a switch.

I understand that Pioli's pomp and incompetence has been eroding passion and general interest, but any organization is far larger than one person...

Tough situation for fans.
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To Clark, his feelings for Scott clearly are > a winning product and a happy fan base.
They could just rent a house together or something. Why does their relationship have to interfere with my enjoyment of the Chiefs.
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PUT ON YOUR TIN FOIL HAT:

Is it possible that Clark wanted a franchise quarterback and told Pioli to tank this season to get the top pick to get one and that if he did so his job would be safe?

I know for a fact that he made it clear to Herm Edwards that he wanted the team to play the young players in 2008 in hopes of getting them experience and putting the team in position to draft a quarterback...but these two things are totally different.

Ok, you can take the tin foil hats off. That idea is silly.
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It's not just ticket sales.

Pioli has his hand in every aspect of the org. Operation costs from the amount of ink used, to paper ordered, to the fabric on sales people's chairs have been micromanaged by him.

He has his hands everywhere. He's cut their spending significantly over what Carl had done. That was one of the appeals Clark first had with Scott is SP came in and pinpointed areas to save money.

Clark is a business man. He hasn't lost money a single year Pioli has been here.
Has any team ever lost money?
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