Chiefs Let's talk about the ****ing Bills. - Page 12

Direckshun · 11-02-2014, 08:19 PM

This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate.

The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ****ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye.

What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What??

I'll tell you what happened. Kyle ****ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ****ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous.

Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success:

The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success.
He is still Kyle Orton.

That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone.

He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown.

After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-****ing-diculous speedster.

At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright.

I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us.

So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3.

This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ****ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst.

I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady.

Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps.

Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none.

This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better.

Let's win this ****ing game.

ThaVirus · 11-03-2014, 05:52 PM

It just occurred to me that we've gone 3-0 in the AFC East so far. Each game was won by at least two TDs.

Can we put the final nail in this shit stain division's coffin with another big, statement win?

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2014, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Denver beat KC
KC beat NE
NE beat Denver

Just matching games up like that really doesn't do anything at this still earlyish stage of the season. Buffalo fans can make easy counters:

New England was in a funk against the Chiefs, with Gronk still struggling to come back from injury, LaFell still trying to adapt, and the OL sucking with the force of a thousand hurricanes. By the time they'd gotten to the Bills, the OL was playing better, Gronk was healthier and Buffalo was playing its first game after losing both Spiller and Jackson

The Chargers have dropped 3 straight, as the injuries have piled up and Oliver has come down to earth.

The Rams are 3-5 and would be 2-6 if Kaepernick hadn't fumbled on the inch line.

And so on...

It doesn't matter.

The Chiefs played quality football against teams, at the time, that were playing quality football.

The Bills have been inconsistent all season. Their best running backs won't be available this weekend and the offensive line has given up 17 sacks in three weeks.

There is absolutely no reason that the Chiefs lose to the Bills on Sunday unless their coaching staff sends them in unprepared and flat.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2014, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

It just occurred to me that we've gone 3-0 in the AFC East so far. Each game was won by at least two TDs.

Can we put the final nail in this shit stain division's coffin with another big, statement win?

I don't think they'll be making a statement by beating an inconsistent Bills team, something they're expected to do on Sunday.

A statement could be made the following weekend against Seattle.

Direckshun · 11-03-2014, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Denver beat KC
KC beat NE
NE beat Denver

Just matching games up like that really doesn't do anything at this still earlyish stage of the season. Buffalo fans can make easy counters:

New England was in a funk against the Chiefs, with Gronk still struggling to come back from injury, LaFell still trying to adapt, and the OL sucking with the force of a thousand hurricanes. By the time they'd gotten to the Bills, the OL was playing better, Gronk was healthier and Buffalo was playing its first game after losing both Spiller and Jackson

The Chargers have dropped 3 straight, as the injuries have piled up and Oliver has come down to earth.

The Rams are 3-5 and would be 2-6 if Kaepernick hadn't fumbled on the inch line.

And so on...

I'm not saying that the Bills will win (and I'll be cheering for the Chiefs), just that this game isn't necessarily going to be a cake walk.

The Titans beat us before we figured out who we were.

The Broncos were one snap away from losing to us.

The 49ers won because of a bullshit call by the officials that kept the 49ers only TD drive alive.

...

Goes both ways, now dunnit?

ThaVirus · 11-03-2014, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't think they'll be making a statement by beating an inconsistent Bills team, something they're expected to do on Sunday.

A statement could be made the following weekend against Seattle.

I'd say so. They're in direct contention with us for a playoff spot (assuming you've conceded the division to the Broncos).

Just Passin' By · 11-03-2014, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

The Titans beat us before we figured out who we were.

The Broncos were one snap away from losing to us.

The 49ers won because of a bullshit call by the officials that kept the 49ers only TD drive alive.

...

Goes both ways, now dunnit?

That's what I was saying when I said that Bills fans could make easy counters.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2014, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I'd say so. They're in direct contention with us for a playoff spot (assuming you've conceded the division to the Broncos).

I do not view the Buffalo Bills as playoff contenders.

Not only do they have to face the Chiefs, they play at Miami, at New England, Green Bay and at Denver. Cleveland has proven it can win some games as well this season and the Bills play them at the end of November.

They appear to me as a 7-9, 8-8 team at best.

ThaVirus · 11-03-2014, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I do not view the Buffalo Bills as playoff contenders.

Not only do they have to face the Chiefs, they play at Miami, at New England, Green Bay and at Denver. Cleveland has proven it can win some games as well this season and the Bills play them at the end of November.

They appear to me as a 7-9, 8-8 team at best.

Probably because you're not a fan and don't watch them as much as KC.

Buffalo fans are probably saying we've still got Denver, Seattle, Arizona, Pittsburgh and San Diego.

Chiefaholic · 11-03-2014, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

This is the game when we will realize just how bad our secondary is, and just how much Houston and Hali have been covering for them.

This is the game when we realize that we can't run on everyone.

This is the game when we realize that Eric Fisher is still a very below average LT, and the rest of the line is a burning pile of garbage.

Orton will rape, the running game will disappear, and Alex will fold like the bitch he is.

Bills 28, Chiefs 13

Nobody circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.

Jeezus F***ing Christ..... Just shut the **** up already. Your spiel is getting old. You need to find another way to draw attention upon your boring ass life.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2014, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Probably because you're not a fan and don't watch them as much as KC.

Buffalo fans are probably saying we've still got Denver, Seattle, Arizona, Pittsburgh and San Diego.

One of my best friends is from Buffalo and is a huge Buffalo fan. I spent the Chiefs Bye week at his home that Sunday watching the Bills game and the rest of the NFL slate. He's already conceded the Chiefs win on Sunday.

Kyle Orton is not going to beat Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, et al. It's Kyle ****ing Orton.

ThaVirus · 11-03-2014, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

One of my best friends is from Buffalo and is a huge Buffalo fan. I spent the Chiefs Bye week at his home that Sunday watching the Bills game and the rest of the NFL slate. He's already conceded the Chiefs win on Sunday.

Kyle Orton is not going to beat Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, et al. It's Kyle ****ing Orton.

Heh.

Alright, alright. I hope you're right. Just saying this would be a major win for us.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2014, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Heh.

Alright, alright. I hope you're right. Just saying this would be a major win for us.

Every win is a major win, Brotha

**Rausch** · 11-03-2014, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Kyle Orton is not going to beat Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, et al. It's Kyle ****ing Orton.

That goofy bastard has the ability to play way over his head 2 or 3 games a year...

lcarus · 11-03-2014, 06:14 PM

I've always been impressed by Fred Jackson. He's an underrated RB. He's a good receiver out of the backfield as well. He'd be a real potential problem for us. But he's out, so luckily we don't have to worry about him.

RippedmyFlesh · 11-03-2014, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

One of my best friends is from Buffalo and is a huge Buffalo fan. I spent the Chiefs Bye week at his home that Sunday watching the Bills game and the rest of the NFL slate. He's already conceded the Chiefs win on Sunday.

Kyle Orton is not going to beat Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, et al. It's Kyle ****ing Orton.

Orton is the perfect qb for us to face. Not mobile and will turn the ball over. I worry more about qb's that can scramble and avoid sacks. Seeing how bad chicago is this year takes alot of luster off that win.

11-02-2014, 08:19 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2093447	Let's talk about the ing Bills. This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate. The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ***ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost* as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye. What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What?? I'll tell you what happened. Kyle **ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous. Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success: The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success. He is still Kyle Orton. That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone. He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown. After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-ing-diculous speedster. At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright. I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us. So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3. This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst. I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady. Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps. Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none. This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better. Let's win this **ing game.
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ThaVirus 5 o’clock free crack giveaway Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $-1647631	It just occurred to me that we've gone 3-0 in the AFC East so far. Each game was won by at least two TDs. Can we put the final nail in this shit stain division's coffin with another big, statement win?
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lcarus Everybody Lies. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Casino cash: $-1769887	I've always been impressed by Fred Jackson. He's an underrated RB. He's a good receiver out of the backfield as well. He'd be a real potential problem for us. But he's out, so luckily we don't have to worry about him.
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