***Royals vs. Blue Jays Game Thread - July 12, 2015***

[tk13]

Since no one else will do it. Last game before the break.

Volquez (8-4) vs. Felix Doubront (1-0)

Jays:

J Reyes SS
D Travis 2B
J Bautista DH
E Encarnacion 1B
C Colabello LF
R Martin C
D Valencia 3B
K Pillar CF
E Carrera RF

Royals:

A Escobar SS
M Moustakas 3B
L Cain CF
E Hosmer 1B
K Morales DH
S Perez C
O Infante 2B
A Rios RF
P Orlando LF

Also, the Futures Game starts at 3/2 central on MLB Network.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

The defensive metrics for Escobar just never seem to like him as much as it seems they should. Not sure why.

His range and arm are impressive.

That ground ball he fielded is a hit against half the Shortstops in baseball. He turned two like it was nothing. We are spoiled getting to watch him play. Those who just stat-watch will never understand how good he really is.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I know our neighbors to the east won't like this but Pittsburgh would be down right dangerous adding those two.

**** you.

But on a more mannerism notr, I doubt they're looking for OF help with what's his face coming back in a month.

Price would fit well in stl though

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by bsroyals54

We will never know, Cain is staying at 3. And Morales rakes at 5. Not a bad thing to have

I just enjoy poking holes in your terrible arguments.

You could have said, "boy Morales is such a huge upgrade over Butler!" and I would've thought, "gee, that's a decent post!"

Instead you're trying to say our 14th most valuable player is our 1st half MVP

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by bsroyals54

We will never know, Cain is staying at 3. And Morales rakes at 5. Not a bad thing to have

If Cain had three guys in front of him with .350+ OBPs, he'd likely be well over 50 RBIs.

With men on, they both have OPS north of .900. Morales' is higher, but it is separated by OBP (.404 vs. .357), which has nothing to do with RBI totals unless the bases are juiced.

There is a .20 point gap in their SLG percentage. So yeah, Cain would probably have damn near 60 RBI if hitting in the 5 spot, with all other things being equal.

It actually makes an excellent case for the idea of moving Gordon up in the order.

[Coach]

Come on ump.

[bsroyals54]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I just enjoy poking holes in your terrible arguments.

You could have said, "boy Morales is such a huge upgrade over Butler!" and I would've thought, "gee, that's a decent post!"

Instead you're trying to say our 14th most valuable player is our 1st half MVP

Talking about biggest improvement over last year. Hes the highest Improved player on our roster. Comparing to Billy Butler and upgrades over last season. Should be counted as MVP worthy since our roster was lacking 1 thing, runs. Moose is a close runner up for biggest improvement too

[O.city]

Rbis and wins for a pitcher.

Same?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S

Oh, FWIW, Minnesota is up 5-1.

I think everyone who was saying a month or two ago that Minny will fall off has to come to grips. This division is now between us and Minny.

and make it 6-1

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Give no ****s about RBIs. Morales hovers around .800 OPS. That's fine with me. He's earning his contract. But to call him our MVP? Absurd.

Morales isn't the MVP, it is Cain of course, but give no ****s about RBIs? That's kind of a ridiculous thing to say. Bringing in runs is kind of important.

[lewdog]

RBIs, the most over-rated stat used by someone who doesn't understand simple mathematics and number of opportunities of guys on base in front of a certain hitter in the lineup.

[Hootie]

Again, just because our DH this year isn't the worst player in baseball like our DH last year doesn't mean that makes him MVP.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Morales isn't the MVP, it is Cain of course, but give no ****s about RBIs? That's kind of a ridiculous thing to say. Bringing in runs is kind of important.

Many of our higher order hitters would have similar RBI numbers if they were hitting in the same spot in the lineup as Morales with guys in front of them getting on base. It's an over-rated statistic.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I think everyone who was saying a month or two ago that Minny will fall off has to come to grips. This division is now between us and Minny.

and make it 6-1

At this point, we may as well enjoy watching them drive nails into Detroit's coffin. I don't know if Minnesota has the roster depth to cover up injuries down the stretch.

[bsroyals54]

Originally Posted by lewdog

RBIs, the most over-rated stat used by someone who doesn't understand simple mathematics and number of opportunities of guys on base in front a certain hitter in the lineup.

Players have opportunities all the time to put runs on the board for our team bro. We have the highest average in the league, stupid. People are always on base. It means Kendrys has hit with people on base MORE. Meaning hes the guy I want hitting with people on base, always.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by O.city

**** you.

But on a more mannerism notr, I doubt they're looking for OF help with what's his face coming back in a month.

Price would fit well in stl though

Price wold fit everywhere.

Ironically look what just popped up on Twitter.

Royals, pirates among teams looking at outfield help

— Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) July 12, 2015