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Old 12-20-2010, 11:37 AM  
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What if Charles really did get more carries? Wicket stat.

He could break off 2K in our system, that's what.

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The Kansas City Chiefs running back had 14 touches for 153 total yards and a touchdown, and helped ease the load for the returning Matt Cassel(notes). His 80-yard run late in the fourth quarter – on the Chiefs’ first snap after the Rams pulled within 20-13 – locked the game up. Here’s a wicked stat: Charles has 1,961 rushing yards in his last 17 games. And he did that on only 297 carries. That’s a staggering average of 6.6 yards per carry.
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Old 12-24-2010, 02:20 PM   #181
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holy shit I just looked at Garner's 2002 numbers in Oakland...

no freaking wonder I loved that dude as my fantasy back...lol

I forgot about how amazing of a fantasy player he was...he was like Marshall Faulk light
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Old 12-24-2010, 02:20 PM   #182
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You wanna know why Charles > Foster?

1. Speed. Foster doesn't have the breakaway speed Charles does.

2. Supporting cast. If Charles had a QB like Schaub and a WR like Johnson making safeties back off, he would be a nightmare. Cassel and Bowe are good but not in that league yet. No one is playing eight in the box consistently against the Texans...against the Chiefs, it's standard operating procedure.
I'm not gonna say either Cassel or Bowe are Shaub and Johnson but those two are no slouches.

My reason for why Foster is better. He carries the team, Charles splits it.
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Old 12-24-2010, 02:21 PM   #183
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holy shit I just looked at Garner's 2002 numbers in Oakland...

no freaking wonder I loved that dude as my fantasy back...lol

I forgot about how amazing of a fantasy player he was...he was like Marshall Faulk light
I didn't play FF back then but I could only imagine. I had a large man crush on Garner (I will enver say he was the best back any of those years but dude was amazing). All he had to do was get us close than Crockett would get us the extra yard then Gannon could do whatever he wanted.

I ****ing miss that offense. GOD they were fun to watch.
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Old 12-24-2010, 02:23 PM   #184
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Old 12-24-2010, 02:26 PM   #185
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You have a Baseketball avi, I'm OK w/ you saying that haha. I have no problems w/ people hating Oakland also. They're an easy team to hate..... well they were. Now they're just a laughing stock w/ a crippled old man as an owner.
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Old 12-24-2010, 02:31 PM   #187
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I'm not gonna say either Cassel or Bowe are Shaub and Johnson but those two are no slouches.

My reason for why Foster is better. He carries the team, Charles splits it.
Houston is 5th in passing offense.

The Chiefs are 30th.

Who carries their team, again?
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Old 12-24-2010, 02:36 PM   #188
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Houston is 5th in passing offense.

The Chiefs are 30th.

Who carries their team, again?
Next RB in relation to carries:

Derrick Ward - 45

Thomas Jones - 212

So... who does carry the team??
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You sir are correct. Actually those two are just ****ing geniuses.
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Next RB in relation to carries:

Derrick Ward - 45

Thomas Jones - 212

So... who does carry the team??
Jamaal Charles - 34.8 percent of the Chiefs' offense.

Arian Foster - 35.8 percent of the Texans' offense.

Pretty close.

What happens when you remove Charles from the Chiefs' offense? It goes to shit.

What happens to the Texans without Foster? They'd be OK. Just like they were before he was starting.
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Old 12-24-2010, 05:05 PM   #191
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Jamaal Charles - 34.8 percent of the Chiefs' offense.

Arian Foster - 35.8 percent of the Texans' offense.

Pretty close.
Jamaal gets 26% of the Chiefs plays.
Foster gets 37% of the Houston plays.

Houston leans on Foster more than KC relies on Charles, but I believe that Charles is more important to his team. Houston could plug in some other guy & run the same offense. KC cannot replace Charles cuz his skill set is unique. There is only one.
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I'm just talking about losing ways. I mean you did bring up if Houston was winning and Foster being the reason (at least implying). So the Chiefs had those guys but weren't winning.

McFadden is a one hit wonder so far w/ me. Can he stay healthy? That's a huge issue w/ me. I never liked the pick coming out of college but he's changed his running style this season and it's shown. If you watch him in college and before, he never used his blocks, his vision was of that of Helen Keller's, he had no patience, he got ahead of himself among other things. he doesn't seem to have any of those problems this year and it's showing. He's having a great year, but I need more to say he's a great back. I'm not a guy you're gonna find who says Terrell Davis was a good back, he was a flash in the pan, that's not a good back.

Let's not get me excited talking about Charlie Garner haha. I loved that dude.
Uh....Charles had good vision in college, he just needed to learn the have the patience to wait for holes to develop.
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Old 12-26-2010, 01:26 PM   #193
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Charles is averaging 8.0 yards per carry today.

So, his average is going....up.
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Old 12-26-2010, 01:42 PM   #194
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