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Old 11-30-2011, 05:01 PM   #1
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:03 PM   #2
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The OP is wrong in all sorts of ways. What does Orton starting do for us? Possibly give us a win vs Chicago? If anyone thinks this is a playoff team with or without Orton is foolish. I would rather start Palko in a game we could actually win because I want us to not jeopardize our draft stock.
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:49 PM   #3
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The OP is wrong in all sorts of ways. What does Orton starting do for us? Possibly give us a win vs Chicago? If anyone thinks this is a playoff team with or without Orton is foolish. I would rather start Palko in a game we could actually win because I want us to not jeopardize our draft stock.
Palko has started two games, turned the ball over 7 times and accounted for zero TDs.

While WE all understand that winning games at this point is probably counterproductive, do you REALLY want Pioli to retain a coach that would WILLINGLY continue to play Palko instead of Orton?
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:54 PM   #4
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Palko has started two games, turned the ball over 7 times and accounted for zero TDs.

While WE all understand that winning games at this point is probably counterproductive, do you REALLY want Pioli to retain a coach that would WILLINGLY continue to play Palko instead of Orton?
Very well said.

I'm going to answer your rhetorical questions with a resounding "HELL NO"
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:00 PM   #5
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Palko has started two games, turned the ball over 7 times and accounted for zero TDs.

While WE all understand that winning games at this point is probably counterproductive, do you REALLY want Pioli to retain a coach that would WILLINGLY continue to play Palko instead of Orton?
At this point in the season I wouldn't care.If we were 7-4 and in the playoff hunt I would think differently. I see no point in winning anymore games this year and I would rather us lose out. Indy has no issues with it and they will end up with Luck. We will win 4-6 and be hoping for our QBOTF. If we miss him because we started Orton against Chicago when there was absolutely nothing to gain, I would be pissed. The same fans who are eager for Orton to play would be too when the season is over and the short term "high" of a win has worn off and reality sets in. Remember how ecstatic some were when we beat Minn? How bout Indy? Or Oak? Or SD? It felt good to win at the time, but now reality has set in and it all but screwed our chance at Luck.

We are still dangerously close to missing out on RGIII and Barkley without a trade up which I don't see this team doing. If this team does not realize that we need a QB then they all need to be removed. The message coming down to Haley should be to lose out as the season is shot. Anything less than focusing on a QB in this years draft and doing whatever it takes without jeopardizing it's future is short-sighted indeed. If that means we start 7 TO in two games Palko then so be it. Had Cassel been healthy we most likely would have still lost, so what's the difference between losing with Cassel and losing with Palko. Both suck and our offense was inept under both. Orton is not the savior everyone thinks he is. He shouldn't even be on this team as he does nothing for us.
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:08 PM   #6
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At this point in the season I wouldn't care.If we were 7-4 and in the playoff hunt I would think differently. I see no point in winning anymore games this year and I would rather us lose out. Indy has no issues with it and they will end up with Luck. We will win 4-6 and be hoping for our QBOTF. If we miss him because we started Orton against Chicago when there was absolutely nothing to gain, I would be pissed. The same fans who are eager for Orton to play would be too when the season is over and the short term "high" of a win has worn off and reality sets in. Remember how ecstatic some were when we beat Minn? How bout Indy? Or Oak? Or SD? It felt good to win at the time, but now reality has set in and it all but screwed our chance at Luck.

We are still dangerously close to missing out on RGIII and Barkley without a trade up which I don't see this team doing. If this team does not realize that we need a QB then they all need to be removed. The message coming down to Haley should be to lose out as the season is shot. Anything less than focusing on a QB in this years draft and doing whatever it takes without jeopardizing it's future is short-sighted indeed. If that means we start 7 TO in two games Palko then so be it. Had Cassel been healthy we most likely would have still lost, so what's the difference between losing with Cassel and losing with Palko. Both suck and our offense was inept under both. Orton is not the savior everyone thinks he is. He shouldn't even be on this team as he does nothing for us.
that's all well and good, and i agree with all of it.

i think what htismag is concerned with is the fact that Haley SHOULD be on the hot seat (to put it mildy) and SHOULD be trying to win as many games as possible by the end of the year to hopefully keep his job.

The fact that he is starting a 0 TD 7 INT QB in the next despite better options tells us he's not concerned with winning. Which, from a draft and QBOTF standpoint is good. But from a Coaching Accountabililty standpoint, is fucking horrible, cause it means Pioli's probably guaranteed Haley his job next season and is encouraging starting Palko to lose, wouldn't make sense otherwise.

Too bad Egoli and Haley weren't as smart Colts Owners and Caldwell and just tanked the season for Luck. To anyone who thinks I'm crazy for suggesting the Colts are losing on purpose answer this : WHY DOES CALDWELL GO 0-11 AND STILL HAVE A JOB?????
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:08 PM   #7
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Palko has started two games, turned the ball over 7 times and accounted for zero TDs.

While WE all understand that winning games at this point is probably counterproductive, do you REALLY want Pioli to retain a coach that would WILLINGLY continue to play Palko instead of Orton?
some people have absolutely no foresight.

open your ****ing eyes and realize what the **** is going on, bro. The season is lost. Holy shit.
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:09 PM   #8
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some people have absolutely no foresight.

open your ****ing eyes and realize what the **** is going on, bro. The season is lost. Holy shit.
Haley is trying to save his job. Do you not understand that?
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:24 PM   #9
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Haley is trying to save his job. Do you not understand that?
I firmly believe that Pioli/Hunt/Haley are all on the same page here.
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Haley is trying to save his job. Do you not understand that?
Looks more to me like he is trying to get fired.

Palko would have been cut by now if I were the coach.
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Can't say I really care, one way or the other.

At most, Orton is going to help this team win one more game than they win otherwise.

What does that accomplish?
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Can't say I really care, one way or the other.

At most, Orton is going to help this team win one more game than they win otherwise.

What does that accomplish?
Gets us out of drafting a rookie QB and a chance at 9-7 next year.
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This is great news.

It is Blow for Barkley time.
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:43 PM   #14
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Orton would have been a better choice last week with no practice. If they don't play him this week the acquisition makes zero sense. I guess that goes hand in hand with most of the stupid shit they've done. Enough already.
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I guess it's a good thing to keep losing but I don't understand the logic or lack there of.
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