Chiefs New GM Dorsey brings energy, enthusiasm to first training camp with Chiefs - Page 13

**mdchiefsfan** · 07-20-2013, 10:18 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/07/19...nthusiasm.html

July 19
BY VAHE GREGORIAN
The Kansas City Star

The sheer, sincere energy radiates, almost enough to make you flinch or squint, as John Dorsey walks in the room and introduces himself.

As the new Chiefs general manager prepared to embark Friday for an inspection of the operation at Missouri Western, where the team begins training camp with a trickle Monday and in earnest on Friday, it was hard not to get reeled in by his boyish enthusiasm.

He spoke of the franchise being a “crown jewel” once it’s awakened and vowed he “will not rest” until then. He talked of an organization that is “symmetrically aligned” and of the good people he is working with — “You can feel that around here ” — in the aftermath of a reign of error that he isn’t interested in addressing.

“I don’t live in the past; I live in the present and look forward to the future,” Dorsey said. “I’ll learn from the past, but I won’t live in it. I am who I am.”

And who he is couldn’t contain his anticipation of the home opener against Dallas on Sept. 15.

“Here’s what I can’t wait to hear,” he says, before bellowing out a somewhat disturbing, impossible-to-describe roaring sound. “These fans are unbelievable. I mean, I just want to hear them cranked up.”

Toward that end, here’s what he says fans should look for in the first year of the new regime of Dorsey and head coach Andy Reid.

“Everybody should expect a team that will be very competitive, that will represent the brand of the Kansas City Chiefs and what it stands for,” he said. “You’re going to see a bunch of guys that are excited and competitive and are going to compete their (tails) off for the AFC West — and rightfully so.

“That’s what you should be doing. That’s why you’re in the business.

“And you’re going to see a group of guys who are going to come together like a big family,” he adds, meshing the fingers of both hands together, “and the closeness in the locker room can buy you (victories).

“We’re all in this together; everybody’s on the same page.”

If that proves true in the long haul, it will an achievement in itself after the splintering within under predecessor Scott Pioli.

But by way of example, Dorsey points first to Chiefs owner Clark Hunt and president Mark Donovan, speaking of each with admiration and later illustrating the flow chart by finding four Styrofoam plates and arranging them with Hunt represented at the top and Donovan, Reid and himself on the same line.

“The structure that Clark has set up, it works, it really does,” he said, adding that they have worked to create a “belief system” together. “Listen, not one guy has all the answers, but collectively, if you can take everybody together, the fist is much more powerful than (a finger).”

He added, “I know my strengths and weaknesses, but I’ll find the solution. Does that make sense? Just give me a little time and some patience, and I’ll use every resource available and I’ll find the solution.”

While Dorsey stressed the essentials of cooperation and communication throughout the organization, top to bottom, the dynamic that will be most evident and likely most vital to the franchise’s future after years of futility will be the one between Reid and him.

The duo became close during their time together in Green Bay, where Reid was an assistant from 1992-98 before his 14-year run as head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles ended with a 4-12 campaign a year ago.

“Andy and I talk three times a day, even on vacation; we’re like two brothers,” he says, pulling out his cell phone to show a picture of his 2-year-old, “Baby Jack,” eating watermelon that he recently texted Reid. “That’s what we share; that’s part of the friendship, and that’s we do.

“We communicate. In the positions were in, and this includes Clark and Mark as well, we’re in constant communication. Constant communication makes effective organizations, and that’s the way it is.”

For a more tangible illustration of how that plays out, Dorsey retraced the steps of how they went about going after quarterback Alex Smith from the 49ers.

“The coaches did their evaluation, overall assessment of the team. We (in personnel) did our overall assessment of the team,” said Dorsey, who had spent most of the last two decades making his mark with the Packers in that capacity. “That way everybody gets a separate, objective opinion. Then Andy and I sat and talked, and it was interesting because we both were spot-on … about our needs.

“So then I assessed all of the quarterback pool there was, in the NFL and in college. I assessed it, then I ranked them, I broke them down. And it wasn’t even close. Alex Smith was the only option.”

The division of labor, Dorsey said, also should benefit Reid.

“I think it’s huge. His plate was full when he was in Philly, now; I mean, really full,” he said. “And the way that Clark has structured it, my job is to bring the chess pieces to the game and say, ‘There you go, big boy, let’s go play.’ ”

With a smile, he added that Reid is a “pretty good offensive schemer” — who will have more time for that again — among his other attributes.

“He is a gentleman; he is a leader. Andy’s really good at molding young men,” he said. “You know why? Because he is honest, he’s truthful. Guys believe in him. He’s going to tell it like it is, good or bad.”

His own upbeat aura notwithstanding, Dorsey has that in him, too.

He knows he’s in a honeymoon phase, of course, and he might prefer to undersell and overdeliver.

“I just wish the fans would taper down,” he said, smiling but maybe not quite joking. “I know they’re excited, but this is a marathon, not a sprint. It can’t happen overnight.”

That may most aptly be summed up by the fact that 53 of the 90 names on the Chiefs’ training camp roster are new.

“I’m just throwing this number out there flippantly, but the average shifting is probably 20,” Dorsey said. “But when you’re 2-14, you better do something.”

But even if he does consider himself a realist, even if he acknowledges “you never know what you have” until you see it, Dorsey is thrilled to be in the thick of the transition on the eve of his first Chiefs camp.

“It’s a new season,” he said. “I want to see this team (and) who they really are.”

And no matter who it is and how far it has to go, he adds, “When we wake up in the morning, that’s why we’re here, to not only make ourselves better but make our community better. Let’s do something special today.”

**BossChief** · 07-21-2013, 03:48 PM

I think Alex Smith is like the AK suited of the AFC.

Ceej · 07-21-2013, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I think Alex Smith is like the AK suited of the AFC.

I was thinking AJos.

I hate that ****ing hand.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-21-2013, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles

IDGAF.

22-77 is all relative. From the list you provided - anyone 77 or lower just doesn't intrigue me including Rivers.

Dude wilts so bad. And has benefited from playing in a shitty ****ing conference.

You like Rivers, I dislike him. They're opinions.

I don't even necessarily "like" Rivers. I just think he's the 8th best QB in the AFC.

splatbass · 07-21-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I can't answer that question, since there wasn't a QB available that I believe can win now, including Alex Smith.

Fair enough. You have a right to your opinion. I agree with Dorsey and Reid, so we will see if they are right or not.

It is harder to be a real GM/HC than an armchair one like you. There is no real way to prove you wrong, since you are not making the decisions and your way has not been implemented.

Ceej · 07-21-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I don't even necessarily "like" Rivers. I just think he's the 8th best QB in the AFC.

And you might be a little right. I really dislike him because his attitude along with the lack of big game wins.

I think SD would be a real contender every year if he had a halfway functioning brain.

milkman · 07-21-2013, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Fair enough. You have a right to your opinion. I agree with Dorsey and Reid, so we will see if they are right or not.

It is harder to be a real GM/HC than an armchair one like you. There is no real way to prove you wrong, since you are not making the decisions and your way has not been implemented.

Just once, I'd like be wrong on the major decisions this franchise makes.

**BossChief** · 07-21-2013, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I don't even necessarily "like" Rivers. I just think he's the 8th best QB in the AFC.

Paired with a coach like Andy Reid, Phillip could ascend. As it sits, I see him 5-8th best.

RunKC · 07-21-2013, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The AFC is weak. Look around.

The East is the Pats and the unknown Dolphins.

The North is tough, but I don't think the Steelers and Ravens are what they have been, both are beatable. Yes, I realize the Ravens just won a SB.

The South is the Texans and a Colts team that IMO, was overrated last year.

The Broncos are the cream of the crop in the AFC.

The AFC is considerably weaker than normal and really weak compared to the NFC.

I think the NFC is better right now, but I'm talking how we match up against the AFC.

Broncos are at the top. Patriots will still be towards the top due to their division sucking, the Steelers will be better, the Ravens are just as strong, the Bengals are pretty damn strong, the Texans are pretty damn strong and the Colts will still push for 10 wins IMO.

Then there's the Dolphins who we don't know about, but are pretty solid across the board.

Our talent is enough to compete for a WC, but I'm not sure we are able to beat a lot of those teams. Not with our DL and offensive weapons in question.

mcaj22 · 07-21-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The AFC is weak. Look around.

The East is the Pats and the unknown Dolphins.

The North is tough, but I don't think the Steelers and Ravens are what they have been, both are beatable. Yes, I realize the Ravens just won a SB.

The South is the Texans and a Colts team that IMO, was overrated last year.

The Broncos are the cream of the crop in the AFC.

The AFC is considerably weaker than normal and really weak compared to the NFC.

you can say whatever you want but at the end of the day

Pats- Brady
Steelers - Big Ben
Colts - Luck
Broncos - Peyton
Ravens - Flacco

those five teams have a QB that can go on hot streaks and win games at any given time and carry their team. That is the difference maker, you can call the Ravens or Colts overrated or taking a step back but as long as these teams have franchise or elite QBs they are in the running for a winning season more times than not. No matter what position players or coaches leave

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-21-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

you can say whatever you want but at the end of the day

Pats- Brady
Steelers - Big Ben
Colts - Luck
Broncos - Peyton
Ravens - Flacco

those five teams have a QB that can go on hot streaks and win games at any given time and carry their team. That is the difference maker, you can call the Ravens or Colts overrated or taking a step back but as long as these teams have franchise or elite QBs they are in the running for a winning season more times than not. No matter what position players or coaches leave

You forgot Brees

**ShortRoundChief** · 07-21-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

you can say whatever you want but at the end of the day

Pats- Brady
Steelers - Big Ben
Colts - Luck
Broncos - Peyton
Ravens - Flacco

those five teams have a QB that can go on hot streaks and win games at any given time and carry their team. That is the difference maker, you can call the Ravens or Colts overrated or taking a step back but as long as these teams have franchise or elite QBs they are in the running for a winning season more times than not. No matter what position players or coaches leave

I like to miracle whip my gherkin

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-21-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave

You forgot Brees

AFC.

ChiefsCountry · 07-21-2013, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueFanDave

You forgot Brees

Talking about the AFC quarterbacks.

RunKC · 07-21-2013, 04:15 PM

I still think that the Ravens are the best team in the league right now, especially with Crabtree getting hurt in SF.

Their QB and front 7 combined are better than anyone in the AFC and that's what really matters.

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-21-2013, 04:16 PM

07-20-2013, 10:18 AM
mdchiefsfan Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Casino cash: $723904	New GM Dorsey brings energy, enthusiasm to first training camp with Chiefs http://www.kansascity.com/2013/07/19...nthusiasm.html July 19 BY VAHE GREGORIAN The Kansas City Star The sheer, sincere energy radiates, almost enough to make you flinch or squint, as John Dorsey walks in the room and introduces himself. As the new Chiefs general manager prepared to embark Friday for an inspection of the operation at Missouri Western, where the team begins training camp with a trickle Monday and in earnest on Friday, it was hard not to get reeled in by his boyish enthusiasm. He spoke of the franchise being a “crown jewel” once it’s awakened and vowed he “will not rest” until then. He talked of an organization that is “symmetrically aligned” and of the good people he is working with — “You can feel that around here ” — in the aftermath of a reign of error that he isn’t interested in addressing. “I don’t live in the past; I live in the present and look forward to the future,” Dorsey said. “I’ll learn from the past, but I won’t live in it. I am who I am.” And who he is couldn’t contain his anticipation of the home opener against Dallas on Sept. 15. “Here’s what I can’t wait to hear,” he says, before bellowing out a somewhat disturbing, impossible-to-describe roaring sound. “These fans are unbelievable. I mean, I just want to hear them cranked up.” Toward that end, here’s what he says fans should look for in the first year of the new regime of Dorsey and head coach Andy Reid. “Everybody should expect a team that will be very competitive, that will represent the brand of the Kansas City Chiefs and what it stands for,” he said. “You’re going to see a bunch of guys that are excited and competitive and are going to compete their (tails) off for the AFC West — and rightfully so. “That’s what you should be doing. That’s why you’re in the business. “And you’re going to see a group of guys who are going to come together like a big family,” he adds, meshing the fingers of both hands together, “and the closeness in the locker room can buy you (victories). “We’re all in this together; everybody’s on the same page.” If that proves true in the long haul, it will an achievement in itself after the splintering within under predecessor Scott Pioli. But by way of example, Dorsey points first to Chiefs owner Clark Hunt and president Mark Donovan, speaking of each with admiration and later illustrating the flow chart by finding four Styrofoam plates and arranging them with Hunt represented at the top and Donovan, Reid and himself on the same line. “The structure that Clark has set up, it works, it really does,” he said, adding that they have worked to create a “belief system” together. “Listen, not one guy has all the answers, but collectively, if you can take everybody together, the fist is much more powerful than (a finger).” He added, “I know my strengths and weaknesses, but I’ll find the solution. Does that make sense? Just give me a little time and some patience, and I’ll use every resource available and I’ll find the solution.” While Dorsey stressed the essentials of cooperation and communication throughout the organization, top to bottom, the dynamic that will be most evident and likely most vital to the franchise’s future after years of futility will be the one between Reid and him. The duo became close during their time together in Green Bay, where Reid was an assistant from 1992-98 before his 14-year run as head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles ended with a 4-12 campaign a year ago. “Andy and I talk three times a day, even on vacation; we’re like two brothers,” he says, pulling out his cell phone to show a picture of his 2-year-old, “Baby Jack,” eating watermelon that he recently texted Reid. “That’s what we share; that’s part of the friendship, and that’s we do. “We communicate. In the positions were in, and this includes Clark and Mark as well, we’re in constant communication. Constant communication makes effective organizations, and that’s the way it is.” For a more tangible illustration of how that plays out, Dorsey retraced the steps of how they went about going after quarterback Alex Smith from the 49ers. “The coaches did their evaluation, overall assessment of the team. We (in personnel) did our overall assessment of the team,” said Dorsey, who had spent most of the last two decades making his mark with the Packers in that capacity. “That way everybody gets a separate, objective opinion. Then Andy and I sat and talked, and it was interesting because we both were spot-on … about our needs. “So then I assessed all of the quarterback pool there was, in the NFL and in college. I assessed it, then I ranked them, I broke them down. And it wasn’t even close. Alex Smith was the only option.” The division of labor, Dorsey said, also should benefit Reid. “I think it’s huge. His plate was full when he was in Philly, now; I mean, really full,” he said. “And the way that Clark has structured it, my job is to bring the chess pieces to the game and say, ‘There you go, big boy, let’s go play.’ ” With a smile, he added that Reid is a “pretty good offensive schemer” — who will have more time for that again — among his other attributes. “He is a gentleman; he is a leader. Andy’s really good at molding young men,” he said. “You know why? Because he is honest, he’s truthful. Guys believe in him. He’s going to tell it like it is, good or bad.” His own upbeat aura notwithstanding, Dorsey has that in him, too. He knows he’s in a honeymoon phase, of course, and he might prefer to undersell and overdeliver. “I just wish the fans would taper down,” he said, smiling but maybe not quite joking. “I know they’re excited, but this is a marathon, not a sprint. It can’t happen overnight.” That may most aptly be summed up by the fact that 53 of the 90 names on the Chiefs’ training camp roster are new. “I’m just throwing this number out there flippantly, but the average shifting is probably 20,” Dorsey said. “But when you’re 2-14, you better do something.” But even if he does consider himself a realist, even if he acknowledges “you never know what you have” until you see it, Dorsey is thrilled to be in the thick of the transition on the eve of his first Chiefs camp. “It’s a new season,” he said. “I want to see this team (and) who they really are.” And no matter who it is and how far it has to go, he adds, “When we wake up in the morning, that’s why we’re here, to not only make ourselves better but make our community better. Let’s do something special today.”
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