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Old 09-14-2016, 08:25 AM  
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Chiefs release KeiVarae Russell
Rand Gettlin-I'm told the #Chiefs have released defensive back KeiVarae Russell. Special teams numbers game. Super talented player. Likely to be claimed.

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Old 09-14-2016, 10:51 AM   #181
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Hi guys, Titans fan here

as some may know the Titans have #1 waiver priority at the moment and our CB depth is as scary as it gets, would you guys think Russell would be a viable option for us?
Well, after Marcus Peters. We have terrible CBs...even though I think Chiefs fans underrated Phillip Gaines. Nonetheless, we have a bunch of chodes when we go into the dime and we STILL cut Russell who was a 3rd round pick this year. Speaks volumes about how much the staff was unimpressed by him.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:54 AM   #182
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Hi guys, Titans fan here

as some may know the Titans have #1 waiver priority at the moment and our CB depth is as scary as it gets, would you guys think Russell would be a viable option for us?
It's honestly tough to say. He obviously had some level of talent coming out of college or we wouldn't have drafted him. It sounds like he's not that smart of a guy, as the most public criticism we've heard about him is that he's had a lot of trouble grasping the terminology the Chiefs use. Aside from that, he largely just couldn't get on the field above other guys we drafted later, so he pretty much showed the fans nothing.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:55 AM   #183
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File this post under the "Things that happen in Madden but not real life" category.

Would we trade Jamaal Charles straight-up for a cornerback? I love Jamaal, but if he's back...well...I think we've got a rich talent pool at RB right now.

Just spitballing.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:56 AM   #184
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Those two are mutually exclusive: Draft position does not equal being a good player.

By that measure, an undrafted college free agent like Charcandrick West isn't a good player because he wasn't drafted.
This.

The Chiefs probably didn't expect DJ White to beat out Russel. It happens. I'm happy to see Dorsey have the balls to move on from a high round pick.

And FWIW, i expect him to be added to the PS.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:56 AM   #185
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:02 AM   #186
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:03 AM   #187
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There had to have been an off the field issue then.
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The other thing to keep in mind, guys, is that without trading out of the first round, which resulted in the Chris Jones selection in the second round, the Chiefs wouldn't have even had a third round selection to make.

That trade also opened up the opportunity to draft multiple 4th and 5th round players, all of whom made the roster, save for Kevin Hogan, who most likely wouldn't have been drafted by the Chiefs, either, had it not been for all of Dorsey's moves.
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There had to have been an off the field issue then.
Yep, off the field the Chiefs kept telling him he was terrible on the field.
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Yep, off the field the Chiefs kept telling him he was terrible on the field.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:11 AM   #191
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Going back to this, yes, he was suspended for academic fraud. Terez Paylor also indicated that Russell was having problems with the terminology, which was supposedly the reason why he was behind.

Pure speculation but if you put 2 and 2 together, maybe he has a learning disability, which led to cheating and his issue with terminology.

Just a guess.
Very plausible possibility.
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The other thing to keep in mind, guys, is that without trading out of the first round, which resulted in the Chris Jones selection in the second round, the Chiefs wouldn't have even had a third round selection to make.

That trade also opened up the opportunity to draft multiple 4th and 5th round players, all of whom made the roster, save for Kevin Hogan, who most likely wouldn't have been drafted by the Chiefs, either, had it not been for all of Dorsey's moves.
For as hell bent as Dorsey was on getting back into the third round (seriously, Captain Ahab wasn't as fixated as Dorsey was on the third round), he sure shit it away, didn't he?

So in effect, the Chiefs gave away an additional year of team control of Chris Jones for....nothing. Nothing at all. And that's what I hated about that trade down to begin with.

It wasn't Chris Jones, it was that if you really think Jones is a player, you just take him in the first and leverage the value of the player option to save yourself a shitload in the long-run. Agents are digging their heels in on franchise numbers now that they've gotten so high. The franchise tag isn't going to be much of a benefit for teams going forward. So if you can't get guys extended early, you're stuck fighting in the market for them.

One way to help get that extension is the threat of the 5th year option (see Fisher's deal, and Fisher's deal was even harder because the 5th year option for him was more than twice what it would be for a late first rounder).

The trade down failed.
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So they brought back moses, which is nice.

I don't see them trading for anyone.
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We're going to see more and more of this moving forward, as the Chiefs will have more draft picks than spots available due to the quality of the roster.
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