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Old 08-23-2015, 09:19 PM  
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Would you straight up trade Alex Smith for Carr, if you could..
I can't do a poll on this crap phone so chime in...


Who would you rather have, Right NOW,


Smith or Carr?
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Old 09-20-2015, 05:50 PM   #196
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Derek Carr is like Rivers and Manning?
3 of the 4 QB on that list can pass the ball good to well.
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Old 09-20-2015, 05:52 PM   #197
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Id trade Smith for Carr or Bridgewater, but thats just because Im not a fan of trying to build a contender around a limited game manager. SO many things have to go perfect for that to work. The PLAYOFFS exposes teams that try to do this. (There are a couple exceptions but history says your doing it the hard way). The most important position on the field and you hope you can build such a great team everywhere else that mediocrity at the QB position wont matter.

This is why the 9ers went with Kaep. It may not work out. Carr and Bridgewater may not work out, but rarely does attempting to build a contender around a known game manager caliber QB ever work out. Smith should be a nice quality stop gap, not the answer at QB for a team that thinks its a true contender.
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Derek Carr is like Rivers and Manning?
Derek Carr threw for 351 yards and 3 TD today. That's his second career 300-yard game.

Alex Smith has 4 300-yard games in his ENTIRE CAREER.
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Old 09-20-2015, 05:54 PM   #199
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Seriously. His YPC was 11.7... WITH a 68 Yard anomaly. That's good for only 13th in the league last year. His 3rd down rate today is unsustainable and he will never get more penalty yards this entire season. This was his super bowl and he almost blew it. Enjoy it, Carr fans.
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Id trade Smith for Carr or Bridgewater, but thats just because Im not a fan of trying to build a contender around a limited game manager. SO many things have to go perfect for that to work. The PLAYOFFS exposes teams that try to do this. (There are a couple exceptions but history says your doing it the hard way). The most important position on the field and you hope you can build such a great team everywhere else that mediocrity at the QB position wont matter.

This is why the 9ers went with Kaep. It may not work out. Carr and Bridgewater may not work out, but rarely does attempting to build a contender around a known game manager caliber QB ever work out. Smith should be a nice quality stop gap, not the answer at QB for a team that thinks its a true contender.
Whoever we get behind Center after smith I just want them to have a Arm I'm so tired of short passing game managers Cassell to Smith is the worst thing that ever happened to this fanbase.
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His YPC was 11.7... WITH a 68 Yard anomaly. That's good for only 13th in the league last year.
As opposed to Alex's 28th?
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Old 09-20-2015, 05:56 PM   #202
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Derek Carr threw for 351 yards and 3 TD today. That's his second career 300-yard game.

Alex Smith has 4 300-yard games in his ENTIRE CAREER.
So Smith threw for 3 TD's and less yards....still 3 TD's...your obsession with yards is idiotic
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Old 09-20-2015, 05:57 PM   #203
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As opposed to Alex's 28th?
Alex blows. I'm just here to shit on the YPA/YPC abortion that is Derek Carr.
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Old 09-20-2015, 05:58 PM   #204
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So Smith threw for 3 TD's and less yards....still 3 TD's...your obsession with yards is idiotic
Who won the Super Bowl last year, again?

How many yards did he have today?

The last time the Chiefs won a mother****ING playoff game, how many yards did the QB throw for?
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Old 09-20-2015, 05:59 PM   #205
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Career playoff stats:

Manning: 283 yds/gm, 38 TD, 24 INT
Rivers: 240 yds/gm, 11 TD, 9 INT
Carr: 0 yds/gm, 0 TD, 0 INT

Smith, 291 yds/gm, 9 TD, 0 INT

Looks like we win!
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Alex blows. I'm just here to shit on the YPA/YPC abortion that is Derek Carr.
Alex smiths jacks off to Touchdown passes like the one Carr made to Amari Cooper.
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]Who won the Super Bowl last year, again?

[/B]How many yards did he have today?

The last time the Chiefs won a mother****ING playoff game, how many yards did the QB throw for?
Not the Raiders and not Carr
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Who won the Super Bowl last year, again?

How many yards did he have today?

The last time the Chiefs won a mother****ING playoff game, how many yards did the QB throw for?
You realize Smith threw for almost 400 yards in the playoffs last time out, and set a franchise record?

Meanwhile, the guy who won the Super Bowl that year passed for about 200 yds/game in the regular season.
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I bring this up every time we have this discussion, but again, GoChiefs wants to troll.

Last season, QB's who threw for 400 yards were 3-8.

Since 2006, QB's who throw for 400 yards are 42-69.

I have no problem wanting a QB who can light it up, and not someone who is ultra careful like Smith, I get the argument...but there is no direct correlation between passing yardage and winning consistently.
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I bring this up every time we have this discussion, but again, GoChiefs wants to troll.

Last season, QB's who threw for 400 yards were 3-8.

Since 2006, QB's who throw for 400 yards are 42-69.

I have no problem wanting a QB who can light it up, and not someone who is ultra careful like Smith, I get the argument...but there is no direct correlation between passing yardage and winning consistently.
But if you CAN'T do it AT ALL...that's an issue.

A huge issue.
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