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Mile High Mania · 01-17-2009, 02:07 PM

I'd be shocked ... you guys just brought on Pioli, and that likely isn't appealing to Shanny. And, on the flipside of that... Shanny wants more control and power than your normal HC, and Pioli just left that type of situation in NE.

The Cowboys are going to lose Garrett as OC... they fired their DC and their ST coach... Wade is sitting there thinking "Hmmmm, what's up Jerry". I don't know if they'll pull that trigger, but Shanahan in Dallas would make sense. Granted, you have Jerry not wanting to give up control, but stranger things have happened.

I think Mike sits out a year, unless something wild happens in Dallas.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-17-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I'd be shocked ... you guys just brought on Pioli, and that likely isn't appealing to Shanny. And, on the flipside of that... Shanny wants more control and power than your normal HC, and Pioli just left that type of situation in NE.

The Cowboys are going to lose Garrett as OC... they fired their DC and their ST coach... Wade is sitting there thinking "Hmmmm, what's up Jerry". I don't know if they'll pull that trigger, but Shanahan in Dallas would make sense. Granted, you have Jerry not wanting to give up control, but stranger things have happened.

I think Mike sits out a year, unless something wild happens in Dallas.

Yes! This! To the Cowgirls with him!

Brock · 01-17-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I'd be shocked ... you guys just brought on Pioli, and that likely isn't appealing to Shanny. And, on the flipside of that... Shanny wants more control and power than your normal HC, and Pioli just left that type of situation in NE.

I don't know that Shanahan really wants all that much power anymore. I think he probably just wants to coach and to win some more championships.

Mile High Mania · 01-17-2009, 02:28 PM

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I don't know that Shanahan really wants all that much power anymore. I think he probably just wants to coach and to win some more championships.

Well, looking at the last few years... what makes you think this is what he wants to do now?

Brock · 01-17-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Well, looking at the last few years... what makes you think this is what he wants to do now?

Because look where all that power got him.

Mile High Mania · 01-17-2009, 02:30 PM

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Because look where all that power got him.

Ok, but I just don't see that changing much. I think it would have to be the right scenario and I think that would be a team like Dallas more than KC. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-17-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I don't know that Shanahan really wants all that much power anymore. I think he probably just wants to coach and to win some more championships.

Backing Pioli as the GM was the smart choice in terms of talent AND name, but as far as Coaches are concerned; I'd MUCH rather see a young up and coming guy with fresh ideas who can bring kind of a "We are Marshall" trip to the Chiefs.

Only Carl, Herm, Dickie, Gun, and Krummy die in the plane crash though.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-17-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Backing Pioli as the GM was the smart choice in terms of talent AND name, but as far as Coaches are concerned; I'd MUCH rather see a young up and coming guy with fresh ideas who can bring kind of a "We are Marshall" trip to the Chiefs.

Only Carl, Herm, Dickie, Gun, and Krummy die in the plane crash though.

ADDENDUM:

Said plane crashes in to Shanahan's new digs, taking him out as well.

It's for your own good Chiefs Nation.

bowener · 01-17-2009, 02:31 PM

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that Pioli is in negotioans with Mike Shanahan

For OC or HC?

Mile High Mania · 01-17-2009, 02:43 PM

Yeah, RedBull types as if Mike was coaching in Detroit... he called all the shots in Denver and had an owner that let him do as he pleased.

melbar · 01-17-2009, 03:37 PM

Because of that great team and a HOF QB. His teams have been less than inspiring since. The tactics of his sb teams 10 yrs ago taint that imho.

Fritz88 · 01-17-2009, 04:05 PM

not too shabby.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-17-2009, 04:17 PM

You know what? **** this; it's time to get serious. I was hoping someone would hit on this but since there are no takers present, I'm gonna' do the job.

When the Chiefs won the Super Bowl, they came back the next year, moved in to a new stadium, and haven't seen a Super Bowl since.

When Denver won their 2nd title, the same thing happened.

When you have a Championship Franchise, you don't sit on your ass in the off season and hope for another repeat. We've hired a guy who's only purpose in life is to build that Championship Team, and keep the roster moving along through the years so that a backslide is avoided.

Mike Shanahan does NOT know how to do this. And I don't think for a NY-Minute that he's going to just sit back and be happy with whatever players Pioli sends his way.
The guy couldn't control Cutler to keep that Douche from embarrassing himself and the franchise either.
It's also obvious he doesn't know how to get his players fired-up either.

His "burst" is G-O-N-E. Shanahan to KC? I'd rather drink cat-piss.

Taco John · 01-17-2009, 04:18 PM

I personally think Shanahan was building a Superbowl team in Denver. It's true that he's let the defense go while he focused his efforts on offense - especially the last two years when he liquidated Jake Plummer and started to build a team around Jay Cutler. But right now the Broncos have a powerful young offense and we're moving into this offseason with more cap money and draft picks than we've had in a decade to spend primarily on defense... And at that, Shanahan's personnel guy (Goodman) has done a superb job the last two years - probably better than anyone in the league. You'll note that while Shanahan was fired, we kept his personnel guy - effectively making him the team's GM.

FringeNC · 01-17-2009, 04:21 PM

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I personally think Shanahan was building a Superbowl team in Denver. It's true that he's let the defense go while he focused his efforts on offense - especially the last two years when he liquidated Jake Plummer and started to build a team around Jay Cutler. But right now the Broncos have a powerful young offense and we're moving into this offseason with more cap money and draft picks than we've had in a decade to spend primarily on defense... And at that, Shanahan's personnel guy (Goodman) has done a superb job the last two years - probably better than anyone in the league. You'll note that while Shanahan was fired, we kept his personnel guy - effectively making him the team's GM.

Why in your opinion was he fired?

01-17-2009, 02:07 PM	#1
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $1087229	I'd be shocked ... you guys just brought on Pioli, and that likely isn't appealing to Shanny. And, on the flipside of that... Shanny wants more control and power than your normal HC, and Pioli just left that type of situation in NE. The Cowboys are going to lose Garrett as OC... they fired their DC and their ST coach... Wade is sitting there thinking "Hmmmm, what's up Jerry". I don't know if they'll pull that trigger, but Shanahan in Dallas would make sense. Granted, you have Jerry not wanting to give up control, but stranger things have happened. I think Mike sits out a year, unless something wild happens in Dallas. __________________
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Sweet Daddy Hate Unsparing Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	You know what? ** this; it's time to get serious. I was hoping someone would hit on this but since there are no takers present, I'm gonna' do the job. When the Chiefs won the Super Bowl, they came back the next year, moved in to a new stadium, and haven't seen a Super Bowl since. When Denver won their 2nd title, the same thing happened. When you have a Championship Franchise, you don't sit on your ass in the off season and hope for another repeat. We've hired a guy who's only purpose in life is to build that Championship Team, and keep the roster moving along through the years so that a backslide is avoided. Mike Shanahan does NOT know how to do this. And I don't think for a NY-Minute that he's going to just sit back and be happy with whatever players Pioli sends his way. The guy couldn't control Cutler to keep that Douche from embarrassing himself and the franchise either. It's also obvious he doesn't know how to get his players fired-up either. His "burst" is G-O-N-E. Shanahan to KC? I'd rather drink cat-piss. __________________ 1. Merciless, severe. 2. Given freely and generously. 100% refusal to overrate 20 year Head Coaches with ZERO ing rings as a Head Coach. CP's Official Professor of 'Dem Blues for 2019/2020!**
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Taco John Sapere Aude Join Date: Jun 2001 Casino cash: $617937	I personally think Shanahan was building a Superbowl team in Denver. It's true that he's let the defense go while he focused his efforts on offense - especially the last two years when he liquidated Jake Plummer and started to build a team around Jay Cutler. But right now the Broncos have a powerful young offense and we're moving into this offseason with more cap money and draft picks than we've had in a decade to spend primarily on defense... And at that, Shanahan's personnel guy (Goodman) has done a superb job the last two years - probably better than anyone in the league. You'll note that while Shanahan was fired, we kept his personnel guy - effectively making him the team's GM.
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