Other Sports FIFA 2009 - Page 14

**Baby Lee** · 06-15-2009, 01:12 PM

US short sided, and up 1-0 on freakin' Italy.

Are you kidding me?

carlos3652 · 06-25-2009, 02:11 PM

This US team is pretty mediocre, i think they played a sound strategic game (Well played Coach Bradley) against a team who could not adjust to take advantage of all the opportunities they had. Howard showed why he is a great goalkeeper.

That being said, any team can beat any team on any given day. Strategy is a big component in soccer (even though it might not seem that way). I think the US had nothing to lose, they were expected to lose to a greater opponent, with loads more talent on the field, but Del Bosque could not figure out a way to pentrate that last line of Defense, specifically Howard.

Brazil looks flat, but they are facing the locals, always a tough game... (See France vs Brazil 1998 WC)

carlos3652 · 06-25-2009, 02:15 PM

BTW, I am an Avid supporter for the US, and my home country of Argentina (we didnt make this tourney because we lost to Brazil in the Finals)... But Argentina has a large problem right now with Strategy, Maradona is the coach, amazing player, but i doubt his technical ability... Our talent is second to none on our team, yet he cannot find the right mix of players to actually win confortablly... example 1-0 vs colombia at home this past qualifier.

Ultra Peanut · 06-25-2009, 02:16 PM

Can't get worse than against Bolivia, right? (I still have sympathy pains.)

Ultra Peanut · 06-25-2009, 02:20 PM

I just feel bad for the SA fans.

WoodDraw · 06-25-2009, 02:21 PM

Hell of a game by SA. That's a heartbreaking free kick to give up.

One minute additional time? Sheesh

carlos3652 · 06-25-2009, 02:22 PM

Bolivia was bad, but not because we lost, just the way we lost.... it wast even as bad as 1993 loss to Colombia in Buenos Aires 0-5...

We dont win in the Altitude, its a big deal, i think we havent won in Ecuador in 15+ years and it has been awhile (i think 20+ years) since we won in Bolivia. so that didnt stun me... it was the matter we got crushed... Maradona has won his two home games and lost 2 away games that we werent expecting to win... but one thing is to lose 1-0, 3-1, 2-0 and another thing is to get completely out classed by them.. and coaching blunders (ex not taking out players that were ridiculous tired, and taking out players - Tevez and Heinze come to mind - that were playing their hearts out...)

WoodDraw · 06-25-2009, 02:23 PM

SA should give us a friendly crowd now though, don't ya think?

carlos3652 · 06-25-2009, 02:25 PM

One other thing, it sucks i have to pay $30 for every Argentina match i want to watch for the qualifyers... our schedule blows now too - Argentina vs Brazil, Argentina vs Paraguay (our next two).

**Buck** · 06-25-2009, 02:26 PM

Well sounds like SA lost?

I think that means their fans will root for the US.

I don't know which team will have the crowd on its side though. I know for sure that the US won over the fans in that Spain Game.

carlos3652 · 06-25-2009, 02:28 PM

I Hate Brazil with a passion, i hope SA roots for the US.

**Baby Lee** · 06-25-2009, 02:29 PM

Danny Alves' shot is what I lived for back in the day, hour after hour working on pace and placement.

That was a work of art. They knew what was coming and couldn't stop it.

Valiant · 06-25-2009, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoodDraw

Still work to do, but we're in decent shape. Our next WCQ game is against Mexico in the shit hole that is Azteca in August some time.

Right now we're in 2nd place. The top three make the WC, and the fourth place team plays a playoff against the South American confed for the last spot.

I have about 6 friends flying down to that game.. They get their own personal security everywhere they go.. Hopefully it is enough.. Probably still going to get piss thrown at them..

Spicy McHaggis · 06-26-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by carlos3652

But Argentina has a large problem right now with Strategy, Maradona is the coach.

Keeping Riquelme off the squad certainly hasn't helped things, although the blame should probably extend to both parties, at least somewhat. Legend or not, Diego just doesn't seem to be steering the ship right now.

I know we talked before about it but I'm always rooting for Argentina to succeed as well as the US. It's unfortunate the way things have been going of late.

Silock · 06-26-2009, 02:57 PM

Maradona is just another in a long line of players who were great, but make lousy managers.

Seems to me that the best managers are the players who were never really that good. They couldn't skate through on their physical ability and really had to learn the game. That's what makes them great managers. People like Maradona just don't identify and don't have that deep tactical knowledge that other managers have.

Spicy McHaggis · 06-26-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

Seems to me that the best managers are the players who were never really that good. They couldn't skate through on their physical ability and really had to learn the game. That's what makes them great managers.

I agree wholeheartedly with this. Someone that the game just came so easily finds it much harder to relate to the players that needed fair amounts of work to refine their skills, much less the guy that's squeezing every ounce of ability out of themselves by virtue of pure, maniacal effort.

It's comparable to having Einstein trying to put himself into the shoes of your average college physics student.

06-15-2009, 01:12 PM
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06-25-2009, 02:11 PM	#196
carlos3652 El Diablo Join Date: Dec 2004 Casino cash: $1746679	This US team is pretty mediocre, i think they played a sound strategic game (Well played Coach Bradley) against a team who could not adjust to take advantage of all the opportunities they had. Howard showed why he is a great goalkeeper. That being said, any team can beat any team on any given day. Strategy is a big component in soccer (even though it might not seem that way). I think the US had nothing to lose, they were expected to lose to a greater opponent, with loads more talent on the field, but Del Bosque could not figure out a way to pentrate that last line of Defense, specifically Howard. Brazil looks flat, but they are facing the locals, always a tough game... (See France vs Brazil 1998 WC)
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06-25-2009, 02:15 PM	#197
carlos3652 El Diablo Join Date: Dec 2004 Casino cash: $1746679	BTW, I am an Avid supporter for the US, and my home country of Argentina (we didnt make this tourney because we lost to Brazil in the Finals)... But Argentina has a large problem right now with Strategy, Maradona is the coach, amazing player, but i doubt his technical ability... Our talent is second to none on our team, yet he cannot find the right mix of players to actually win confortablly... example 1-0 vs colombia at home this past qualifier.
Posts: 6,108

06-25-2009, 02:16 PM	#198
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06-25-2009, 02:21 PM	#200
WoodDraw Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005059	Hell of a game by SA. That's a heartbreaking free kick to give up. One minute additional time? Sheesh
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06-25-2009, 02:22 PM	#201
carlos3652 El Diablo Join Date: Dec 2004 Casino cash: $1746679	Bolivia was bad, but not because we lost, just the way we lost.... it wast even as bad as 1993 loss to Colombia in Buenos Aires 0-5... We dont win in the Altitude, its a big deal, i think we havent won in Ecuador in 15+ years and it has been awhile (i think 20+ years) since we won in Bolivia. so that didnt stun me... it was the matter we got crushed... Maradona has won his two home games and lost 2 away games that we werent expecting to win... but one thing is to lose 1-0, 3-1, 2-0 and another thing is to get completely out classed by them.. and coaching blunders (ex not taking out players that were ridiculous tired, and taking out players - Tevez and Heinze come to mind - that were playing their hearts out...)
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06-25-2009, 02:23 PM	#202
WoodDraw Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005059	SA should give us a friendly crowd now though, don't ya think?
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06-25-2009, 02:25 PM	#203
carlos3652 El Diablo Join Date: Dec 2004 Casino cash: $1746679	One other thing, it sucks i have to pay $30 for every Argentina match i want to watch for the qualifyers... our schedule blows now too - Argentina vs Brazil, Argentina vs Paraguay (our next two).
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06-25-2009, 02:26 PM	#204
Buck Take a Chill Pill Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Casino cash: $6090295	Well sounds like SA lost? I think that means their fans will root for the US. I don't know which team will have the crowd on its side though. I know for sure that the US won over the fans in that Spain Game.
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06-25-2009, 02:28 PM	#205
carlos3652 El Diablo Join Date: Dec 2004 Casino cash: $1746679	I Hate Brazil with a passion, i hope SA roots for the US.
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06-25-2009, 02:29 PM	#206
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06-26-2009, 02:57 PM	#209
Silock MVP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10020882	Maradona is just another in a long line of players who were great, but make lousy managers. Seems to me that the best managers are the players who were never really that good. They couldn't skate through on their physical ability and really had to learn the game. That's what makes them great managers. People like Maradona just don't identify and don't have that deep tactical knowledge that other managers have.
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