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Old 03-16-2010, 03:05 PM   #1
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Stinchcomb.

Porter and Harper both outplayed Sharper in the playoffs.
didn't Sharper have a critical interception or two?

(i'm not poking at you...seriuosly I can't remember).
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:30 PM   #2
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Stinchcomb.

Porter and Harper both outplayed Sharper in the playoffs.
You are ****ing nuts. Sharper had nine interceptions during the regular season and three ****ing touchdowns! He had more passes defensed than ANY OTHER SAFETY IN THE LEAGUE and MOST of the cornerbacks. How the **** is a right tackle going to compete with that?
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:06 PM   #3
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You are ****ing nuts. Sharper had nine interceptions during the regular season and three ****ing touchdowns! He had more passes defensed than ANY OTHER SAFETY IN THE LEAGUE and MOST of the cornerbacks. How the **** is a right tackle going to compete with that?
You said the playoffs.

Sharper didn't have an interception in the playoffs and for the most part both Tracy Porter (who did have a very good playoff run and a TD for interception in the playoffs) and Roman Harper had more impact during the playoff stretch.
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:09 PM   #4
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You said the playoffs.

Sharper didn't have an interception in the playoffs and for the most part both Tracy Porter (who did have a very good playoff run and a TD for interception in the playoffs) and Roman Harper had more impact during the playoff stretch.
FTR he said Superbowl run, not playoffs. Superbowl runs start way before the playoffs.
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:25 PM   #5
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You said the playoffs.

Sharper didn't have an interception in the playoffs and for the most part both Tracy Porter (who did have a very good playoff run and a TD for interception in the playoffs) and Roman Harper had more impact during the playoff stretch.
I said "Super Bowl run." The regular season is a part of it. I'd go on debating with you but Darren Sharper is going to the Hall of ****ing Fame. Stinchcomb is going to go on the motivational speaking circuit.
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:29 PM   #6
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You are ****ing nuts. Sharper had nine interceptions during the regular season and three ****ing touchdowns! He had more passes defensed than ANY OTHER SAFETY IN THE LEAGUE and MOST of the cornerbacks. How the **** is a right tackle going to compete with that?
Wow. An interception every two games resulting in a combined 18 points. And that's damn near the benchmark in terms of what a safety is going to be able to contribute to a team.

And considering that Sharper's role in the Saints 4-3 defense was just that - a free form ball hawk, his primary responsibility was to get interceptions. He didn't do anything above and beyond what other 4-3 free safeties were asked to do. Guys like Jarius Bryd, Nick Collins, Tanard Jackson all had similarly productive seasons.

If the Saints were so overly impressed with Sharpers mad safety skills that made him such a priceless commodity, why were they more than happy to let him test the free agent waters for a minimum amount of money?

Yeah, at this point, I'm pretty sure that the Saints place a higher priority on Stinchcomb than Sharper.
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:49 PM   #7
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If the Saints were so overly impressed with Sharpers mad safety skills that made him such a priceless commodity, why were they more than happy to let him test the free agent waters for a minimum amount of money?
Because he's old, you dipshit. Did you ever hear of the concept of a gun for hire? The Saints just won the ****ing Super Bowl. The last thing they are is desperate for a 37-year old. Especially because now he wants too much ****ing money and he can't pass a physical (knee surgery) so NO SHIT HE HASN'T BEEN RE-SIGNED.

Here's the ****ing point for you. The Chiefs have SHIT at safety (yes, including Page) and the league assraped them with the deep ball last year. Oh yeah, and our safeties are balls in run support. What do you think is more important? Fixing that shit or finding some fat **** with relatively marginal athletic talent who can drive block and handle slow-ass left ends?

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Old 03-16-2010, 03:37 PM   #8
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Stinchcomb.

Porter and Harper both outplayed Sharper in the playoffs.
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:12 PM   #9
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Porter and Harper both outplayed Sharper in the playoffs.
You really should have your rep nuked.
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Cleveland used a couple of 2's on safeties with Crennel there, Pioli I believe was part of the Eric Turner pick at 2, as was Belichick.
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:54 PM   #11
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See now a Greg Williams scheme would be perfect for a guy like Berry. Those type of defenses need good safety's with range, athleticism, and great anticipation. Dick Lebeau and Rex Ryan both make good use of safety talent because of their zone pressures. What a lot of people don't realize is the parcells/pees/patriots 3-4 is one of the more conservative D's. Parcells was playing traditional cover 2 (just a little bit different than tampa 2) with the Giants back in the 80's. Pioli is most likely like McDouche in his thinking, who thought Mike Nolan blitzed too much and brought in a more conservative coach. These type of football coaches want to beat you with physicality up front, size and power at every position on the front 7, tackle the ball, and make you earn your way down the field trusting you'll eventually make a mistake. A Greg Williams, Rex Ryan, W. Phillips type of scheme wants to force you into mistakes knowing you're apt to get some big plays on them every now and then. A guy like Berry can be a good player in any scheme, but he's best suited to an agressive style.
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See now a Greg Williams scheme would be perfect for a guy like Berry.
It's too bad that Greg Williams will never coach in KC
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RT > safety in the '10 NFL.

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And guess where the Saints drafted Stinchcomb....THE SECOND ROUND.
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:58 PM   #15
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I don't relish the idea of passing on Berry... BUT with as many holes as we have.. if we got Miami's 2nd and 6th out of the deal... I would be hard pressed to not take it. Still LOADS of "playmakers" at #12 and the 2nd round this year is where the true value lies.
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