The NFL is becoming more disturbing than appealing, and TV viewers are tuning out

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Zilla...the Pats got off with a slap in the wrist for what cheating accomplished for that fraud franchise. The League Destroying evidence and trying to sweep it under the rug didn't work, so they had to do act tough suspending Golden Boy. (Que the summoming of Asterix whining) That fanbase can piss the **** off as they are one of the privleged special teams thar gets every call their way.

[Buehler445]

Lots of great posts in this thread. I posted this in the Alex Smith Purgatory thread. It's an adequate summation of where I am. Bolded the TL;DR part.

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Wait. You said it was LeBatard. Where is the bullshit about the anthem/Kaepernick/BLM/racism schtick?

Really though, I don't give a ****. I'll stay in purgatory after climbing out the depths of hell thanks to Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards and Scott Franchise Killer Pioli. **** man.

We aren't winning shit for awhile anyway. We don't consistently beat good teams so until we can do that, what's the ****ing point of worrying about who is taking the snaps?

Between the Tire Fire days of Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards and Scott Franchise Killer Pioli, and then right the **** after that the CTE bullshit starts and they pull half our starters out because of "concussions" when we are raping some fools in the playoffs, to Donks becoming cheap shot artists and Von Douche not getting fined for obviously teeing off on Smith. Late. With the Crown. Launching. While a week later Tamba gets one for a fat OL sitting on him. Then through the whole London home game crap. All the way through to the tampering shit, Sean Smiths ridiculous suspension. Then these mother****ers like Richard Sherman says his knees hurt while I climb on the tractor with arthritis in my knees ankles and hands but don't happen to have any $20M checks laying around. I'm just ****ing tired man. What the **** am I rooting for? It used to be football. Now it's ****ing asenine PR driven nonsense that has only an ancillary correlation to football.

Maybe I'm grumpy after working a billion hours to get $3 corn harvested and $2.80 wheat planted, but I'm ****ing tired of ****ing nonsense.

/rant

Bottom line it is a cumulative effect of all the shit posted in the thread. Lots of it I had forgot about - like the Costas gun thing (**** that guy seriously), incapacity to determine catches, etc.

Every time some stupid shit like some game getting crazy calls for a certain team to win, or cover or some shit, dumbass discipline/non-discipline shit, collecting money from military for the appreciation days, ****ing off breast cancer money, or whatever other blatant sellout of the game for revenue dollars just knocks another chunk out of the credibility of the league. There isn't one big thing that wrecks the league, but eventually the foundation of credibility the game of football stood on is pissed away by these golden goose killing mother****ers.

When the credibility is gone, it is almost impossible to be engaged in, so that leads to guys like me getting tired of the shit and tuning out.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Lots of great posts in this thread. I posted this in the Alex Smith Purgatory thread. It's an adequate summation of where I am. Bolded the TL;DR part.


Bottom line it is a cumulative effect of all the shit posted in the thread. Lots of it I had forgot about - like the Costas gun thing (**** that guy seriously), incapacity to determine catches, etc.

Every time some stupid shit like some game getting crazy calls for a certain team to win, or cover or some shit, dumbass discipline/non-discipline shit, collecting money from military for the appreciation days, ****ing off breast cancer money, or whatever other blatant sellout of the game for revenue dollars just knocks another chunk out of the credibility of the league. There isn't one big thing that wrecks the league, but eventually the foundation of credibility the game of football stood on is pissed away by these golden goose killing mother****ers.

When the credibility is gone, it is almost impossible to be engaged in, so that leads to guys like me getting tired of the shit and tuning out.

man, it would be cool to share a brew with you.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Lots of great posts in this thread. I posted this in the Alex Smith Purgatory thread. It's an adequate summation of where I am. Bolded the TL;DR part.


Bottom line it is a cumulative effect of all the shit posted in the thread. Lots of it I had forgot about - like the Costas gun thing (**** that guy seriously), incapacity to determine catches, etc.

Every time some stupid shit like some game getting crazy calls for a certain team to win, or cover or some shit, dumbass discipline/non-discipline shit, collecting money from military for the appreciation days, ****ing off breast cancer money, or whatever other blatant sellout of the game for revenue dollars just knocks another chunk out of the credibility of the league. There isn't one big thing that wrecks the league, but eventually the foundation of credibility the game of football stood on is pissed away by these golden goose killing mother****ers.

When the credibility is gone, it is almost impossible to be engaged in, so that leads to guys like me getting tired of the shit and tuning out.

Yep...and the core of the appeal is fair, human competition. You start jacking with the very foundation of why anyone cares about it...and it will crumble.

NFL and Vegas have over-played their hand..thinking the "unwashed" populace is too stupid to notice the sham.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Most of You guys are knocking it outta the park. Still laughing at the clowns thking the Pats have a right to be mad though fuuuu******* that.

[DRU]

Watching the game now? This is one of the reasons. That was absolute horse $h1t.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by DRU

Watching the game now? This is one of the reasons. That was absolute horse $h1t.

LOL, I forget there was MNF... LOL, just LOL!

[Psyko Tek]

Originally Posted by tk13

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...b06_story.html

Excerpts:

you know,
I have a PC, or a console, or a phone and I can play any game I want on it
I love watching the chiefs play, but my gawd I swear I ****ing hate end around and bubble screens
a good D, and these guys are at least good, shut down by rules that favor the O


and then there is the fact that these guys are risking their lives every play

has it always been like this?

yeah probably

this shit is turning people off

I got no solution

just like muscle cars the nfl will go away or be nothing we want anymore

[Hydrae]

Originally Posted by Psyko Tek

just like muscle cars the nfl will go away or be nothing we want anymore

Um, what? Have you seen the number of Camaros, Mustangs, and Challengers on the road in the last decade? Those are just reborn muscle cars. They may have been gone for a while but they have come back big time (they are even going to start producing Dodge Cudas next year (disgusting, those were Plymouths!)).

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Psyko Tek

just like muscle cars the nfl will go away or be nothing we want anymore

lol wut

[Molitoth]

We have the technology to take human error out of football, yet we still have these zebras on the field making terrible judgement calls that realistically a human eye can't call in real time.

The amount of wrong PI calls that affect the outcome of a game, and the importance of over-officiating on unsportsman-like conduct for celebrations are drastically removing my interest from the NFL.

Let the players have fun, and start using technology.... watch the NFL become better.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

We have the technology to take human error out of football, yet we still have these zebras on the field making terrible judgement calls that realistically a human eye can't call in real time.

The amount of wrong PI calls that affect the outcome of a game, and the importance of over-officiating on unsportsman-like conduct for celebrations are drastically removing my interest from the NFL.

Let the players have fun, and start using technology.... watch the NFL become better.

You think a computer is going to be able to make a PI call automatically? I'm not seeing that any time soon.

You might be able to automate forward progress/breaking the goal line and things like that.

Or do you want every pass play to be reviewed by humans?

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

You think a computer is going to be able to make a PI call automatically? I'm not seeing that any time soon.

You might be able to automate forward progress/breaking the goal line and things like that.

Or do you want every pass play to be reviewed by humans?

I'm saying we need to have headsets from the replay booth DIRECTLY to the officials on the field.
Think about how fast the replay booth is displaying the correct call on the giant TV's in the stadium for the entire fanbase to disagree with... only for the play to not be challengable.

leading to...

Teams should be able to challenge any call on the field they want, to a limited amount of times. A Pass Interference call should be review-able. (Bill Belechik has been vocal about this)



Getting multiple calls WRONG per game is not making the game better.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

You think a computer is going to be able to make a PI call automatically? I'm not seeing that any time soon.

You might be able to automate forward progress/breaking the goal line and things like that.

Or do you want every pass play to be reviewed by humans?

Dude. You're off base. I've posted all this before.

Remote sensing is ****ing cake, man. I have a decade old combine and it can count how many seeds per minute are being lost out the sieves or cleaning shoe, it constantly measures how many RPM each chain and belt shiv is turning (there are shitload), it measures how many pounds per second of grain is flowing into the grain tank - calculate variables of speed, GPS position, Overlap, header width, commodity weight - to produce a real time yield/acre at any given point in the field along with moisture samples every 15 seconds, it constantly measures the pressure at each injector, turbocharger pressures and blade positions, measures the density of the material in the return elevator, along with a whole mess of shit that I don't know what means.

I can remotely tell where my pivots are, the pressure at both ends, as well as the technology to speed up and slow down an electric motor (via frequency drive - I'm not smart enough to do the engineering enough to explain that one) to match pressures on the fly.

In the cab, I can know if my planter is dropping singluated seeds or doubles to give me real time population and singulation information. The rate monitor calculates shaft speed, compares it to GPS or radar speed, as well as plate size, to automatically increase or decrease planter drive speed to achieve required population. It can measure row unit downpressure and automatically adjust pneumatic pressures to achieve a predetermined downpressure as soil conditions change through the field.

My air drill has blockage monitors on every row to give me real time indicatiors from every row.

I have a closed system chemical meter that automatically meters chemical to .01% accuracy despite widely varying liquid densities.

Neighbors of mine have soil probes that remotely tell them in real time the saturation of water in the soil. Without moving from their desk

And I'm a shit poor dirt farmer.

The technology is there. It's reliable. It's cheap. It's tiny. It's all integratable.

If I can; 1. afford it, 2. use it effectively, there is no reason the bottomless pockets of the NFL can't.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

I'm saying we need to have headsets from the replay booth DIRECTLY to the officials on the field.
Think about how fast the replay booth is displaying the correct call on the giant TV's in the stadium for the entire fanbase to disagree with... only for the play to not be challengable.

leading to...

Teams should be able to challenge any call on the field they want, to a limited amount of times. A Pass Interference call should be review-able. (Bill Belechik has been vocal about this)



Getting multiple calls WRONG per game is not making the game better.

One thing I know for sure is that losing a challenge for being correct is insane. Even with earning one back if you are correct twice, it's crazy.