BREAKING NEWS: Chicago White Sox to put up netting all the way to foul poul

[Chiefspants]

Yeah, I'm sure people were saying football was "wussifying" or whatever when Teddy Roosevelt almost banned the sport entirely because players kept dying on the field.

People will get over this.

[Chiefshrink]

I'm actually very surprised netting hasn't been mandated long ago in MLB considering our very very litigious society nowadays.

[Mephistopheles Janx]

Am I wrong to say that if you sit in an area of the stadium where balls are coming at you at 110 MPH, you fail to pay attention, and you get hit with said ball... that shit is on you.



If you sit a 2 year old in that area, FAIL TO PAY ATTENTION, they get hit by a ball, and they now need to be spoon fed for the rest of their lives... that shit is on the parent.

Parent paying attention:



Parent not paying attention:



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Nah... why experience personal accountability when we can just sue and babyproof everything for the dumbest common denominator?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx

Am I wrong to say that if you sit in an area of the stadium where balls are coming at you at 110 MPH, you fail to pay attention, and you get hit with said ball... that shit is on you.



If you sit a 2 year old in that area, FAIL TO PAY ATTENTION, they get hit by a ball, and they now need to be spoon fed for the rest of their lives... that shit is on the parent.

Parent paying attention:



Parent not paying attention:



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Nah... why experience personal accountability when we can just sue and babyproof everything for the dumbest common denominator?

I don't think there's any proof that the parent wasn't paying attention.

It's not the smartest thing to bring your kid there. But if your stadium's way of punting liability is to tell fans they have to be ready at a moment's notice to catch a 110 mph hardball screaming at your head or else it's your fault... So who's not allowed down there now? No kids. Nobody with poor coordination, probably a lot of women. No seniors. No handicapped. All phones confiscated. No scorebooks. And while we're at it, nobody should be allowed to hold a beer or nachos during a pitch. Maybe then people will just pay attention like they're supposed to.

[Mephistopheles Janx]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't think there's any proof that the parent wasn't paying attention.

It's not the smartest thing to bring your kid there. But if your stadium's way of punting liability is to tell fans they have to be ready at a moment's notice to catch a 110 mph hardball screaming at your head or else it's your fault... So who's not allowed down there now? No kids. Nobody with poor coordination, probably a lot of women. No seniors. No handicapped. All phones confiscated. No scorebooks. And while we're at it, nobody should be allowed to hold a beer or nachos during a pitch. Maybe then people will just pay attention like they're supposed to.

Why do they need to be told??? Logic states that a 100mph fastball crushed into the stands on a line drive is gonna hurt like a mother ****er if it hits you.

Drink beer and chow nachos while updating your twitter feed all you want. Nothing needs to be confiscated nor do people need to go through some sort of coordination test. But if you get drilled by a baseball... it is on you. If you brought your 2 year old that CAN'T pay attention for themselves... then doubly so.

/completely agreed with the bolded part

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx

Why do they need to be told??? Logic states that a 100mph fastball crushed into the stands on a line drive is gonna hurt like a mother ****er if it hits you.

Drink beer and chow nachos while updating your twitter feed all you want. Nothing needs to be confiscated nor do people need to go through some sort of coordination test. But if you get drilled by a baseball... it is on you. If you brought your 2 year old that CAN'T pay attention for themselves... then doubly so.

/completely agreed with the bolded part

And what about the players who are scarred for life? Maybe just to be nice to them we can look through some netting? Would you like to go to work knowing you could give a little kid brain damage - even if it's 100% her parents' fault?

[Mephistopheles Janx]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

And what about the players who are scarred for life? Maybe just to be nice to them we can look through some netting? Would you like to go to work knowing you could give a little kid brain damage - even if it's 100% her parents' fault?

I have gone to work knowing I could give a kid brain damage if the parent was negligent. While I am grateful it never happened and I would have felt bad for the kid... I, for one, wouldn't have been "scarred for life" over it as it was something completely out of my control.

Has a ballplayer stated they were scarred for life because someone got brained by a foul ball or is this editorialized?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=albert+alm...=v198-1&ia=web

Doesn't come up with him saying anything of that nature. I did read how some players called for added netting but nothing about "scarred for life". Again though... they are calling for the babyproofing of a stadium to cater to the dumbest common denominator.

I'm not adamantly against the additional netting. I'll never sit behind the dugout again but that aside it won't change whether or not I watch the game. I'm simply wondering why there is zero accountability for those who get hit. They sue, team settles. Never mind that the majority of these injures could be avoided by simply being aware of the game you paid to go watch.

Pay attention and you/your crotchfruit likely doesn't get a baseball to the dome.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx

Am I wrong to say that if you sit in an area of the stadium where balls are coming at you at 110 MPH, you fail to pay attention, and you get hit with said ball... that shit is on you.



If you sit a 2 year old in that area, FAIL TO PAY ATTENTION, they get hit by a ball, and they now need to be spoon fed for the rest of their lives... that shit is on the parent.

Parent paying attention:



Parent not paying attention:



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Nah... why experience personal accountability when we can just sue and babyproof everything for the dumbest common denominator?

This is a real dumbass take.

[Mephistopheles Janx]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

This is a real dumbass take.

Excellent response. I can see why you are a valued member of this community. The conversation that you bring is just...

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx

Am I wrong to say that if you sit in an area of the stadium where balls are coming at you at 110 MPH, you fail to pay attention, and you get hit with said ball... that shit is on you.

Nah... why experience personal accountability when we can just sue and babyproof everything for the dumbest common denominator?

This isn't exactly "better put warnings on everything to tell people hot coffee might not feel good when spilled into your lap".... why should there even be a possibility of being hit with a ball traveling at 110mph when you're watching a baseball game?

You could say they shouldn't sue and should assume the risk... but, saying the netting is 'babyproofing' is quite the stretch. And it's perfectly illustrated by your "paying attention" pic being of a guy knocking down a bat instead of a 110mph ball.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx

Am I wrong to say that if you sit in an area of the stadium where balls are coming at you at 110 MPH, you fail to pay attention, and you get hit with said ball... that shit is on you.
Yes sir! You are wrong.


If you sit a 2 year old in that area, FAIL TO PAY ATTENTION, they get hit by a ball, and they now need to be spoon fed for the rest of their lives... that shit is on the parent.

Parent paying attention: And still barely blocked a bat. Not a 110MPH ball.



Parent not paying attention:



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Nah... why experience personal accountability when we can just sue and babyproof everything for the dumbest common denominator?

Dude you are acting like everything is cut and dry. There are many variables and instances that a person can not be perfectly aware and respond in that split second.

[big nasty kcnut]

Seriously who give a shit about the white sox.

[DanT]

I'm good with the nets being extended to protect the fans. I remember that September 1, 1982, game when Amos Otis threw his bat on three consecutive swings (https://www.upi.com/Archives/1982/09...4530399873600/), with the first bat going over the Rangers (third base) dugout and hitting a fan that I believe may have been hard-of-hearing. I don't fully trust my memory, but I think the injured fan had come to the game missing an ear and when he got hit, blood was coming from that area of his head. It was already bad enough that a fan got injured, but that particular fan was someone who seemed to go from one minute paying attention to the game to then being a very unwilling object of everyone's attention, frightened and injured. I was only a couple of rows away, with my back turned making a hot dog for a customer. (I was a food vendor at Truman Sports Complex from 1982-88.) That bat did some damage. The Rangers manager said after the game that he felt that Otis was trying to throw the bat into the dugout, in retaliation for being hit in the back of his head during his previous plate appearance. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/2635...2_amos_otis_2/

Anyway, back then, the nets just protected the areas in between the dugouts, but now they also protect the area behind the dugouts. I'm OK with them going further down the line, mostly to protect fans from hard-hit foul balls, but the nets also would prevent fan interference, which very much irks me. Down the left-field foul lines in Chicago, there was that ridiculous Bartman incident that kept Alou from catching a foul at Wrigley, but there was also that glorious catch by Alex Gordon against the White Sox, so I suppose there are some bad aspects to the extended netting. But, all and all, I'd rather not see fans and workers in the stands get hit by projectiles.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx

Why do they need to be told??? Logic states that a 100mph fastball crushed into the stands on a line drive is gonna hurt like a mother ****er if it hits you.

Drink beer and chow nachos while updating your twitter feed all you want. Nothing needs to be confiscated nor do people need to go through some sort of coordination test. But if you get drilled by a baseball... it is on you. If you brought your 2 year old that CAN'T pay attention for themselves... then doubly so.

/completely agreed with the bolded part

If a fan gets drilled by a baseball even though you're paying attention or your only crime was eating a hot dog or drinking a beer or talking to your neighbor, then that's a problem with stadiums as we know it. Not the fans. I wouldn't bring a 2-year old down there... but let's not let that distract from the idea that a section that is perfectly capable of being safe enough for that 2-year old to be there intentionally chooses not to do it.