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Old 06-30-2023, 01:31 PM   #1
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There's overstating for effect and then there's this.
I'm not overstating it... that is my opinion and I stand by it. This episode was BAD.
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Old 06-30-2023, 02:06 PM   #2
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I'm not overstating it... that is my opinion and I stand by it. This episode was BAD.
Nah. And you certainly can't invoke Discovery and expect that take to be taken seriously after that.
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Old 06-30-2023, 02:26 PM   #3
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Nah. And you certainly can't invoke Discovery and expect that take to be taken seriously after that.
This episode had me waiting for it to end like every episode of Discovery so far. I get you disagree and that is fine. But this was a garbage throw-away episode.
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Old 06-30-2023, 02:10 PM   #4
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I'm not overstating it... that is my opinion and I stand by it. This episode was BAD.
No where near as bad as Discovery. Not even the same universe.
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Old 06-30-2023, 02:25 PM   #5
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No where near as bad as Discovery. Not even the same universe.
I didn't say it was as bad as Discovery (comparing a single episode to an entire massively flawed series). I said that had this been an episode of Discovery... it would have been among their worst.

Singular episode. This was ****ing BAD. Everything else in SNWs has been some of the better Trek to come out and it is the best live action Trek to hit the screen since DS9.

But this ONE episode was hot ****ing garbage.
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Old 07-26-2023, 10:24 AM   #6
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Worst episode of SNW to date... even if we ignore the time travel stuff which is my second most hated Trek concept after the Mirror Universe. This could have been an episode of Discovery and it still would have ranked among their worst as well.

The unceasing number of plot holes in the first half of the episode took me so far out of the show that I honestly gave no ****s about how it got wrapped up. The absolute callousness of the SF Temporal Agency is so anti-federation it hurts. This episode moved absolutely nothing forward. La'an is basically the actual ST version of these two put together...



but somehow worse. That character has all the charisma of recycled cardboard.

Pelia salvaged the episode from being "The Child (TNG)" levels bad.
I don't hate the time travel stuff like some of you guys do. The mirror universe stuff, though, uggghhh. That crap in DS9 was so lame.
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Old 07-02-2023, 10:13 AM   #7
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Something to tide you over until the next episode...




https://youtu.be/jYv9seckvxQ
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Old 07-03-2023, 04:54 PM   #8
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So far season 3 blows. I will continue on in hopes that it will improve.
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Old 07-03-2023, 06:39 PM   #9
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Sorry if I am the loner here but I didn't seem to hate this last episode as much as most of you.

And I certainly don't hate this season at all. In reality SNW has made me give Star Trek another look because I sure couldn't get into Star Trek Picard.
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Old 07-03-2023, 07:02 PM   #10
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Sorry if I am the loner here but I didn't seem to hate this last episode as much as most of you.

And I certainly don't hate this season at all. In reality SNW has made me give Star Trek another look because I sure couldn't get into Star Trek Picard.
There's nothing wrong with the episode or this season.
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Old 07-03-2023, 07:05 PM   #11
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Sorry if I am the loner here but I didn't seem to hate this last episode as much as most of you.

And I certainly don't hate this season at all. In reality SNW has made me give Star Trek another look because I sure couldn't get into Star Trek Picard.
I enjoyed the episode. I thought it was better than episode two. The two mains (Kirk and Singh) did a great job. The primary support (Romulan) was very good as well. At some point it gets stupid to talk about a society shattering world war that happened in the 90's on a show being broadcast in 2023 and they found a way around it.
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Old 07-04-2023, 04:29 PM   #12
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Sorry if I am the loner here but I didn't seem to hate this last episode as much as most of you.

And I certainly don't hate this season at all. In reality SNW has made me give Star Trek another look because I sure couldn't get into Star Trek Picard.
I liked it also, it humanized La'an instead of the typical STRONG WOMAN/frigid bitch.
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Old 07-03-2023, 07:45 PM   #13
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If you were actually trying to reconcile the myriad of continuity problems that exist in Star Trek now, a future temporal war changing history isn't the worst way to do it. I mean it'd probably be better to just ignore it, but if you had to explain it.

In a similar vein, I used to have a theory that Enterprise (the show) was a result of the changes to the timeline caused by the bits of future knowledge Zefram Cochrane learned in First Contact.
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Old 07-04-2023, 08:21 PM   #14
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Mark me down as enjoying that episode. An interesting little take on an alternate reality gone wrong.

And also mark me down as enjoying Christina Chong in general -

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Old 07-07-2023, 11:49 AM   #15
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Back to exploring and doing Enterprise stuff.

Solid episode last night! They okie-doked me with the beginning of the episode and made me think we were doing another La'an type episode.
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