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Old 02-12-2007, 08:03 PM  
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Old 02-13-2007, 10:21 AM   #211
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It will be okay Skip... I know you really liked Marty and all, but sometimes you just have to let him go...

Maybe Carl can bring him back as the assistant Head Coach and the Special Coordinator of offensive design and red zone efficiency.
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Old 02-13-2007, 10:22 AM   #212
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Eric Mangini was a coordinator for how long?
1 year..and NOBODY wanted him except the Jets..that was a very rare situation..he had ties with Tannenbaum(the incoming GM) before that.
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Old 02-13-2007, 10:25 AM   #213
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1 year is not a lot of time to make a judgment on any coach..and your dealing with a super bowl contender here..not an expansion team.
Coordinators get promoted all the time. How long was YOUR head coach a coordinator?
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Old 02-13-2007, 10:30 AM   #214
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Coordinators get promoted all the time. How long was YOUR head coach a coordinator?
1 year..and how many teams were interested? one?
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Old 02-13-2007, 10:31 AM   #215
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Marty stinks in the playoffs? please. That's like saying Peyton Manning can't win the big one. 12 Teams make the playoffs -- 10 exit with a non-winning record. Shottenheimer's perceived post-season futility is simply a byproduct of getting there so often.
Uhhhh.....nope.

Getting to the playoffs is only half the battle. Good coaches should have around a .500 playoffs record. Marty's playoffs record is way below that. He is one of the greatest regular season coaches of all time. He is also one of the worst playoffs coaches of all time.
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Old 02-13-2007, 10:39 AM   #216
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1 year..and how many teams were interested? one?
Do a good job and SOMEBODY will call. Being that it's the same team, that sometimes just increases the probability.

It's pretty simple, the road to head coach goes through a coordinator position. They wouldn't have had ANY trouble finding candidates...
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Old 02-13-2007, 10:44 AM   #217
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Do a good job and SOMEBODY will call. Being that it's the same team, that sometimes just increases the probability.

It's pretty simple, the road to head coach goes through a coordinator position. They wouldn't have had ANY trouble finding candidates...
That's fair..but from the GM's point of view..if they bring in a new head coach after one year(that's not one of those coordinators)he will want to hire his own coaching staff..no?
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Old 02-13-2007, 10:50 AM   #218
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That's fair..but from the GM's point of view..if they bring in a new head coach after one year(that's not one of those coordinators)he will want to hire his own coaching staff..no?
That is a stupid reason to fire a head coach of Schottenheimer's caliber without an apparent replacement plan. I'll reserve judgement until I see who they hire.
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Old 02-13-2007, 11:09 AM   #219
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That is a stupid reason to fire a head coach of Schottenheimer's caliber without an apparent replacement plan. I'll reserve judgement until I see who they hire.
The Spanos' are too conservative not to have a backup plan.
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Old 02-13-2007, 11:17 AM   #220
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The Spanos' are too conservative not to have a backup plan.
That's not how it appears. They don't appear to have a plan at all.
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Old 02-13-2007, 11:19 AM   #221
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They didn't expect to lose half of their coordinators.
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Old 02-13-2007, 11:36 AM   #222
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On 'Cold Pizza' they said they didn't make the move earlier because it wasn't until the team had four coaching vacancies to fill that the problem became as big as it did. The riff between Marty and A.J. Smith was becoming unworkable because Smith didn't like any of Marty's choices for the coaching positions. The main disagreement was Marty wanted his brother for defensive coordinator and wasn't willing to budge, so the owner had to make a decision of who to back and the GM won and Marty had to go.
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The main disagreement was Marty wanted his brother for defensive coordinator and wasn't willing to budge, so the owner had to make a decision of who to back and the GM won and Marty had to go.
that was the first thing that came to my mind, then i thought, "nah".
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Jesus Marty, was trying to get your brother a new job really worth getting fired over?
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