Chiefs Chiefs sign OL Goff!! - Page 15

talastan · 03-25-2009, 11:26 AM

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Chiefs sign OL Goff
The Chiefs agreed to contract terms today with veteran offensive lineman Mike Goff. Goff has some versatility and could wind up starting for the Chiefs at center or right guard.

The 33-year-old Goff played 11 NFL seasons, the first six with Cincinnati and the last five with San Diego. He has been a starter for the past nine seasons.

Wilson8 · 03-25-2009, 03:59 PM

Top rated centers - Mack and Unger will probably be gone in later 1st round. We don't have a second round pick right now. I'm thinking Eric Wood, Antoine Caldwell, or A.Q. Shipley.

Alex Mack, California Height: 6-4. Weight: 307. Pro Day 40 Time: 5.17.
Benchx225: 20. Arm: 33. Projected Round (2009): 1.
1/8/09: Still on top and still a first-round prospect. Alex Mack was an AP All-America third-teamer.
11/2/08: Alex Mack continues his dominance on the field and atop these rankings. It's hard to imagine that he'll make it past the Cardinals, Steelers and Bills in the first round.

Max Unger, Oregon Height: 6-5. Weight: 309. Combine 40 Time: 5.27.
Benchx225: 22. Arm: 33 1/2. Projected Round (2009): 1-2.
2/19/09: Max Unger did a good job of putting on about 10 pounds since the end of the 2008 regular season.
1/8/09: The most versatile lineman in this class, Max Unger has emerged as a first-round prospect, thanks to a dynamic senior year. An All-Pac 10 first-teamer.
5/24/08: An extremely athletic and smart center who can also play offensive tackle. Max Unger's not as strong as some GMs would like, but he'll be an effective pass protector in a zone scheme.

Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas Height: 6-4. Weight: 301. Combine 40 Time: 5.14.
Benchx225: 26. Arm: 31 1/4. Projected Round (2009): 2.
1/8/09: An All-SEC second-teamer, it's unfortunate for Jonathan Luigs that he's stuck in a class with two of the best center prospects the NFL has seen in a while.

Eric Wood, Louisville Height: 6-4. Weight: 310. Combine 40 Time: 5.17.
Benchx225: 30. Arm: 33 3/4. Projected Round (2009): 2-3.
1/8/09: Eric Wood has made 49 consecutive starts. Crazy. He was voted to the All-Big East First Team.
5/26/08: You're getting a rock at center if you draft Eric Wood; he's started 37 consecutive games. He was voted to the All-Big East first team last year.

Antoine Caldwell, Alabama Height: 6-3. Weight: 309. Combine 40 Time: 5.23.
Benchx225: 23. Arm: 34. Projected Round (2009): 2-3.
1/8/09: Antoine Caldwell - not Alex Mack or Max Unger - was voted to the AP All-America First Team.
11/2/08: Should challenge Jonathan Luigs as the No. 2 center. A great leader and an outstanding talent.
5/26/08: Antoine Caldwell saw his 32-game consecutive start streak snapped because he was suspended for some weird situation involving his textbooks. School officials must have been confused that a talented player actually studied and took tests without help.

A.Q. Shipley, Penn State Height: 6-1. Weight: 304. Combine 40 Time: 5.19.
Benchx225: 33. Arm: 29 3/4. Projected Round (2009): 4.
3/22/09: Scored a 40 on his Wonderlic.
2/22/09: Ridiculously short arms could cost him, though he's very talented and will be taken in the middle rounds.
1/8/09: A.Q. Shipley started the final 39 games of his collegiate career. He was an AP All-America second-teamer.
5/26/08: A.Q. Shipley has started every game the past two years and was named to the All-Big Ten first team. Co-captain for the Nittany Lions in 2008.

Cecil Newton, Tennessee State Height: 6-2. Weight: 300. Pro Day 40 Time: 5.13.
Benchx225: 25. Projected Round (2009): 4-5.
1/8/09: A four-year starter and a qualifier for the All-OVC First Team. Tennessee State was renowned for running the ball effectively in 2008.
5/26/08: A third-year starter on Tennessee State's offensive front.

Data From - http://walterfootball.com/draft2009C.php

milkman · 03-25-2009, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jethopper

Barry Richardson does not have the footwork to play RT in the NFL.

Wrong.

Mecca · 03-25-2009, 04:02 PM

If 2 centers go in the 1st round I will be utterly stunned it's just not a valued position.

milkman · 03-25-2009, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

If 2 centers go in the 1st round I will be utterly stunned it's just not a valued position.

This is the most talent laden center draft in memory.

While two in the first round would be surprising, with the lack of quality at other positions, it wouldn't be stunning.

Mecca · 03-25-2009, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

This is the most talent laden center draft in memory.

While two in the first round would be surprising, with the lack of quality at other positions, it wouldn't be stunning.

Eh, I'm not sure I really agree with you on this. There is depth at numerous position the draft does lack alot of high end top 5 caliber guys but there is depth at alot of spots.

WR for example.

Wilson8 · 03-25-2009, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

If 2 centers go in the 1st round I will be utterly stunned it's just not a valued position.

It would be good for the Chiefs if teams hold off on making that center draft pick. From what I have read and seen, this is the best year the NFL has seen for centers in the draft for a long time. The Chiefs have the need. Putting a GOOD young center between Waters and Goff has to improve the Chief's line.

milkman · 03-25-2009, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Eh, I'm not sure I really agree with you on this. There is depth at numerous position the draft does lack alot of high end top 5 caliber guys but there is depth at alot of spots.

WR for example.

There is a lack of top end quality at other positions.

It's the reason that we have these stupid discussions about Curry at the top of the draft.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-25-2009, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Guys like Barry Richardson are who you take late round shots on, he started over 40 games in the ACC on a team that got significantly worse the year after he was gone...

Yeah, I don't have a problem at all with the Richardson selection in 2008. He's got the prototypical size, footwork and upper body strength that you look for in a right tackle.

It's up to him as to how his career pans out.

Mecca · 03-25-2009, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

There is a lack of top end quality at other positions.

It's the reason that we have these stupid discussions about Curry at the top of the draft.

I agree with you but alot of teams are going to value the 5th best WR over the 2nd best center.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-25-2009, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

I agree with you but alot of teams are going to value the 5th best WR over the 2nd best center.

Well, maybe teams that have needs at WR but not a center.

If you need a center and don't need a WR, the value to that specific team is obviously different.

Mecca · 03-25-2009, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well, maybe teams that have needs at WR but not a center.

If you need a center and don't need a WR, the value to that specific team is obviously different.

Most teams always need WR's...considering the number of elite WR's isn't that high and it's become a hard position to find players at in a time when teams are running 3 and 4 wide alot.

Jethopper · 03-25-2009, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

Wrong.

Sorry buddy.

If you watched Barry Richardson play. then you would know his first back step is much like Damian Macintoshs. It is slow and lumbering, as opposed to the chop step that is required when lined up against a pass rushing end. Sure he can be effective in the run, as most RT prospects are, but I will again say Barry Richardson does not have the footwork to play in the NFL. Sorry to break it too you Richardson fans.

Jethopper · 03-25-2009, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

I agree with you but alot of teams are going to value the 5th best WR over the 2nd best center.

Especially after last years recievers class.

**The Franchise** · 03-25-2009, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jethopper

Sorry buddy.

If you watched Barry Richardson play. then you would know his first back step is much like Damian Macintoshs. It is slow and lumbering, as opposed to the chop step that is required when lined up against a pass rushing end. Sure he can be effective in the run, as most RT prospects are, but I will again say Barry Richardson does not have the footwork to play in the NFL. Sorry to break it too you Richardson fans.

And you are?

Jethopper · 03-25-2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

And you are?

A former JUCO defensive end

03-25-2009, 11:26 AM
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Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $2877557	Top rated centers - Mack and Unger will probably be gone in later 1st round. We don't have a second round pick right now. I'm thinking Eric Wood, Antoine Caldwell, or A.Q. Shipley. Alex Mack, California Height: 6-4. Weight: 307. Pro Day 40 Time: 5.17. Benchx225: 20. Arm: 33. Projected Round (2009): 1. 1/8/09: Still on top and still a first-round prospect. Alex Mack was an AP All-America third-teamer. 11/2/08: Alex Mack continues his dominance on the field and atop these rankings. It's hard to imagine that he'll make it past the Cardinals, Steelers and Bills in the first round. Max Unger, Oregon Height: 6-5. Weight: 309. Combine 40 Time: 5.27. Benchx225: 22. Arm: 33 1/2. Projected Round (2009): 1-2. 2/19/09: Max Unger did a good job of putting on about 10 pounds since the end of the 2008 regular season. 1/8/09: The most versatile lineman in this class, Max Unger has emerged as a first-round prospect, thanks to a dynamic senior year. An All-Pac 10 first-teamer. 5/24/08: An extremely athletic and smart center who can also play offensive tackle. Max Unger's not as strong as some GMs would like, but he'll be an effective pass protector in a zone scheme. Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas Height: 6-4. Weight: 301. Combine 40 Time: 5.14. Benchx225: 26. Arm: 31 1/4. Projected Round (2009): 2. 1/8/09: An All-SEC second-teamer, it's unfortunate for Jonathan Luigs that he's stuck in a class with two of the best center prospects the NFL has seen in a while. Eric Wood, Louisville Height: 6-4. Weight: 310. Combine 40 Time: 5.17. Benchx225: 30. Arm: 33 3/4. Projected Round (2009): 2-3. 1/8/09: Eric Wood has made 49 consecutive starts. Crazy. He was voted to the All-Big East First Team. 5/26/08: You're getting a rock at center if you draft Eric Wood; he's started 37 consecutive games. He was voted to the All-Big East first team last year. Antoine Caldwell, Alabama Height: 6-3. Weight: 309. Combine 40 Time: 5.23. Benchx225: 23. Arm: 34. Projected Round (2009): 2-3. 1/8/09: Antoine Caldwell - not Alex Mack or Max Unger - was voted to the AP All-America First Team. 11/2/08: Should challenge Jonathan Luigs as the No. 2 center. A great leader and an outstanding talent. 5/26/08: Antoine Caldwell saw his 32-game consecutive start streak snapped because he was suspended for some weird situation involving his textbooks. School officials must have been confused that a talented player actually studied and took tests without help. A.Q. Shipley, Penn State Height: 6-1. Weight: 304. Combine 40 Time: 5.19. Benchx225: 33. Arm: 29 3/4. Projected Round (2009): 4. 3/22/09: Scored a 40 on his Wonderlic. 2/22/09: Ridiculously short arms could cost him, though he's very talented and will be taken in the middle rounds. 1/8/09: A.Q. Shipley started the final 39 games of his collegiate career. He was an AP All-America second-teamer. 5/26/08: A.Q. Shipley has started every game the past two years and was named to the All-Big Ten first team. Co-captain for the Nittany Lions in 2008. Cecil Newton, Tennessee State Height: 6-2. Weight: 300. Pro Day 40 Time: 5.13. Benchx225: 25. Projected Round (2009): 4-5. 1/8/09: A four-year starter and a qualifier for the All-OVC First Team. Tennessee State was renowned for running the ball effectively in 2008. 5/26/08: A third-year starter on Tennessee State's offensive front. Data From - http://walterfootball.com/draft2009C.php
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