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Sure-Oz · 05:26 PM

PER ESPNNEWS!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4802526 (credit dtrain for the link)
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KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Charlie Weis has agreed to become the offensive coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs, according to team and league sources.

Weis could be named to the position within the next 24 to 48 hours, the sources said.

Weis will be reunited with head coach Todd Haley, with whom he shared an office when both were young assistants with the New York Jets. Weis also will be reunited with Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli, who was the Patriots vice president of player personnel when Weis was the offensive coordinator for three Super Bowl championships before going to coach at Notre Dame.

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The Bears had also been in the mix to hire Weis as offensive coordinator but the Chiefs won out.

Haley ran the offense in his first year with the Chiefs after dismissing offensive coordinator Chan Gailey. Haley had expressed a desire to find a coordinator so he could better manage his head coaching responsibilities.

Weis was dismissed last fall with a 35-27 record in five seasons at Notre Dame.

"Charlie's a guy I have a great amount of respect for as a coach," Haley said Wednesday at his final news conference of the season. "He's a coach that system-wise, I would say we're as close as you can be. Charlie's a guy I consider a friend and I've talked to throughout the year, no different from some of the other guys I lean on for things and advice."

Haley has begun a staff evaluation and said he has already released offensive line coach Joe D'Allessandris and defensive line coach Tim Krumrie. Many fans also hope defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast will be replaced, possibly by former Cleveland coach Romeo Crennel.

Haley was noncommittal about Crennel and Pendergast.

"No conversations in that order to this point," he said.

The emergence of running back Jamaal Charles, voted the team's MVP, gives the offense something to build on next year.

"I really believe we were able to lay a foundation for the Kansas City Chiefs," Haley said. "We were able to set expectations for our players of what's expected of them both schematically and offseason, in season and practice -- the way we're going to do things as a team on a consistent basis. I believe that foundation was laid.

"It was a very difficult year, a year we were able to make progress, as evidenced by the way the season wound down."

The Chiefs are expected to be busy in the offseason trying to fill gaping needs, including defensive back, wide receiver, linebacker, defensive line and tight end.

They pick fifth in April's draft. The could have picked third, but instead ended Haley's rookie year on a rousing high by beating Denver 44-24 in the season finale.

Chris Mortensen is a senior NFL analyst for ESPN. The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Titty Meat · 01-06-2010, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Bad ****ing Ass!

Really?

**the Talking Can** · 01-06-2010, 06:41 PM

The problem with our offense at the end of the season was not haley's play calling - except for some obvious wtf moments - but the QB's execution of the play calls. How many tds did Cassel leave on the field with agressive down field plays calls?

The opening drive in denver was brilliant, and Haley has proven he can call a game that maximizes Charles abilities, even with sub-par talent almost everywhere.

I wish he'd keep calling plays. And it isn't clear to me that Weiss is an upgrade during the game, and may in fact be less aggressive which will inevitably raise another chorus of whining.

But, organizationally, by reducing Haley's work load and maybe even helping to buffer the players from his caustic side a bit, it could help Haley to get his shit together and focus.

I mean, i don't know, but it's hypothetically possible.

It's nice to see them doing something, i guess, and proof that Haley was being candid when he said he'd likely eventually bring in a OC, but please god tell me we're bringing in a new DC where the need is 100 times greater.

**The Franchise** · 01-06-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Bad ****ing Ass!

Mark it down......

On January 6th 2010......DaneMcCloud was happy with a move the Chiefs made.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-06-2010, 06:42 PM

[quote=KC kid;6416363]

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You couldn't put a guy in a worse situation.'QUOTE]

See: Cassel,Matt

Cassel was in the same system for the first 4 years of his career.

He also had a hell of a lot more to work with this year alone on the OL and skill positions than Campbell did in Washington.

Titty Meat · 01-06-2010, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

The problem with our offense at the end of the season was not haley's play calling - except for some obvious wtf moments - but the QB's execution of the play calls. How many tds did Cassel leave on the field with agressive down field plays calls?

The opening drive in denver was brilliant, and Haley has proven he can call a game that maximizes Charles abilities, even with sub-par talent almost everywhere.

I wish he'd keep calling plays. And it isn't clear to me that Weiss is an upgrade during the game, and may in fact be less aggressive which will inevitably raise another chorus of whining.

But, organizationally, by reducing Haley's work load and maybe even helping to buffer the players from his caustic side a bit, it could help Haley to get his shit together and focus.

I mean, i don't know, but it's hypothetically possible.

It's nice to see them doing something, i guess, and proof that Haley was being candid when he said he'd likely eventually bring in a OC, but please god tell me we're bringing in a new DC where the need is 100 times greater.

I can't think of a better coach to help Cassel than Charlie Weis.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-06-2010, 06:43 PM

In defense of Mangini, I do find it rather impressive he was able to take those scrubs to 4 straight wins to end the season.

But I think Holmgren will get rid of him, and I don't want him anywhere near KC.

Just Passin' By · 01-06-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

No, I'm going off of NE's drafting history (since we give Pioli credit when talking about his input on NE's draft, except when they're bad) as well as his history here.

Again, show me one 3-4 OLB that anyone in New England or with this regime has drafted who was a real threat to rush the passer.

This league is about three things: Having a great QB, protecting the QB, and rushing the QB.

We don't have 1, 1 obviates 2 in many cases (notice Cassel's sacks taken stats in NE), and our decision makers have shown no aptitude of getting 3.

Depends on how you look at the words "real threat", I suppose.

Tully Banta-Cain had 9.5 sacks this season.

However, given that the Patriots under Belichick generally brought in veteran linebackers rather than drafting them prior to Mayo, it's sort of a non-issue. The team didn't fail at drafting such players in any grand sense, because they didn't make the attempt.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-06-2010, 06:43 PM

Mangini has been blacklisted from the tree.

Bill Lundberg · 01-06-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

No I thought it was documented that Pioli and the rest of the Kansas City Patriots hate Mangini after he ratted on the mothership.

Good point, I'd forgotten about that

**the Talking Can** · 01-06-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

I can't think of a better coach to help Cassel than Charlie Weis.

well, true and i honestly didn't even think about that angle.....

**DeezNutz** · 01-06-2010, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

The problem with our offense at the end of the season was not haley's play calling - except for some obvious wtf moments - but the QB's execution of the play calls. How many tds did Cassel leave on the field with agressive down field plays calls?

The opening drive in denver was brilliant, and Haley has proven he can call a game that maximizes Charles abilities, even with sub-par talent almost everywhere.

I wish he'd keep calling plays. And it isn't clear to me that Weiss is an upgrade during the game, and may in fact be less aggressive which will inevitably raise another chorus of whining.

But, organizationally, by reducing Haley's work load and maybe even helping to buffer the players from his caustic side a bit, it could help Haley to get his shit together and focus.

I mean, i don't know, but it's hypothetically possible.

It's nice to see them doing something, i guess, and proof that Haley was being candid when he said he'd likely eventually bring in a OC, but please god tell me we're bringing in a new DC where the need is 100 times greater.

I completely agree that Haley CAN call a damn good game. But the WTF moments, I hope, have to be the direct result of him trying to do too much.

How else can you explain comments like, "I called TO to decide whether to punt or kick a FG." Seriously, Todd? Mother****.

The Chiefs are instantly better right now. And this really isn't meant as glowing praise of Weis.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-06-2010, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Mangini has been blacklisted from the tree.

"Hey Scott. It's Eric. You guys find a real D coordinator yet? I should be near the top of the tree."

"Sure Eric. The AIDS Tree."

Click.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-06-2010, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Depends on how you look at the words "real threat", I suppose.

Tully Banta-Cain had 9.5 sacks this season.

Tully Banta-Cain, the 29 year old OLB, almost doubled his career sack total this year and still didn't get to 10.

Titty Meat · 01-06-2010, 06:46 PM

Now lets hire a D-cordinator and let Pioli scout and target free agents and hope next year is alot better than last year. I'm tired of losing I want to argue with everyone about how far we'll go in the playoffs dammit.

**the Talking Can** · 01-06-2010, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I completely agree that Haley CAN call a damn good game. But the WTF moments, I hope, have to be the direct result of him trying to do too much.

How else can you explain comments like, "I called TO to decide whether to punt or kick a FG." Seriously, Todd? Mother****.

The Chiefs are instantly better right now. And this really isn't meant as glowing praise of Weis.

right, it's probably a net gain in the end.....

01-06-2010, 05:17 PM
Sure-Oz Stay positive, don't give up Join Date: Dec 2001 Casino cash: $1809383	Weis agrees to become OC for KC PER ESPNNEWS! http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4802526 (credit dtrain for the link) Sources: Weis accepts job with Chiefs Comment Email Print Share By Chris Mortensen ESPN Archive KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Charlie Weis has agreed to become the offensive coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs, according to team and league sources. Weis could be named to the position within the next 24 to 48 hours, the sources said. Weis will be reunited with head coach Todd Haley, with whom he shared an office when both were young assistants with the New York Jets. Weis also will be reunited with Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli, who was the Patriots vice president of player personnel when Weis was the offensive coordinator for three Super Bowl championships before going to coach at Notre Dame. AFC West blog Williamson ESPN.com's Bill Williamson writes about all things AFC West in his division blog. • Blog network: NFL Nation The Bears had also been in the mix to hire Weis as offensive coordinator but the Chiefs won out. Haley ran the offense in his first year with the Chiefs after dismissing offensive coordinator Chan Gailey. Haley had expressed a desire to find a coordinator so he could better manage his head coaching responsibilities. Weis was dismissed last fall with a 35-27 record in five seasons at Notre Dame. "Charlie's a guy I have a great amount of respect for as a coach," Haley said Wednesday at his final news conference of the season. "He's a coach that system-wise, I would say we're as close as you can be. Charlie's a guy I consider a friend and I've talked to throughout the year, no different from some of the other guys I lean on for things and advice." Haley has begun a staff evaluation and said he has already released offensive line coach Joe D'Allessandris and defensive line coach Tim Krumrie. Many fans also hope defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast will be replaced, possibly by former Cleveland coach Romeo Crennel. Haley was noncommittal about Crennel and Pendergast. "No conversations in that order to this point," he said. The emergence of running back Jamaal Charles, voted the team's MVP, gives the offense something to build on next year. "I really believe we were able to lay a foundation for the Kansas City Chiefs," Haley said. "We were able to set expectations for our players of what's expected of them both schematically and offseason, in season and practice -- the way we're going to do things as a team on a consistent basis. I believe that foundation was laid. "It was a very difficult year, a year we were able to make progress, as evidenced by the way the season wound down." The Chiefs are expected to be busy in the offseason trying to fill gaping needs, including defensive back, wide receiver, linebacker, defensive line and tight end. They pick fifth in April's draft. The could have picked third, but instead ended Haley's rookie year on a rousing high by beating Denver 44-24 in the season finale. Chris Mortensen is a senior NFL analyst for ESPN. The Associated Press contributed to this report. Last edited by Sure-Oz; 01-06-2010 at 05:26 PM..
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the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9372208	The problem with our offense at the end of the season was not haley's play calling - except for some obvious wtf moments - but the QB's execution of the play calls. How many tds did Cassel leave on the field with agressive down field plays calls? The opening drive in denver was brilliant, and Haley has proven he can call a game that maximizes Charles abilities, even with sub-par talent almost everywhere. I wish he'd keep calling plays. And it isn't clear to me that Weiss is an upgrade during the game, and may in fact be less aggressive which will inevitably raise another chorus of whining. But, organizationally, by reducing Haley's work load and maybe even helping to buffer the players from his caustic side a bit, it could help Haley to get his shit together and focus. I mean, i don't know, but it's hypothetically possible. It's nice to see them doing something, i guess, and proof that Haley was being candid when he said he'd likely eventually bring in a OC, but please god tell me we're bringing in a new DC where the need is 100 times greater. __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-992442	Now lets hire a D-cordinator and let Pioli scout and target free agents and hope next year is alot better than last year. I'm tired of losing I want to argue with everyone about how far we'll go in the playoffs dammit.
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