Chiefs 14 of 23 for 85 ****ing yards? - Page 15

Hammock Parties · 08-27-2010, 08:26 PM

Are we playing it close to the vest or are we going to keep Cassel on the NFL's shortest leash all season long?

I sincerely hope it's the former, because the latter will be a bunch of bullshit.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-27-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Thanks for proving my point. Barely half the league.

Uh, multiple teams had two guys over 8.

He's the epitome of average, and is one-dimensional to boot.

I admire the kid's drive and determination, but he needs more than that to be considered more than average, IMO.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-27-2010, 10:45 PM

WTF was Kolb thinking there?

Good job by Lewis to go up and get it at its highest point.

Hammock Parties · 08-27-2010, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Uh, multiple teams had two guys over 8.

That just means the Chiefs have shitty talent.

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He's the epitome of average, and is one-dimensional to boot.

Sorry, average players do NOT force as many fumbles as Hali has over the course of his career.

If we got the guy ANY help he'd be even better.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-27-2010, 10:48 PM

Good run by TJ. Looked like Philly had pulled some starters.

Good hold by Pope there.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-27-2010, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

That just means the Chiefs have shitty talent.

Sorry, average players do NOT force as many fumbles as Hali has over the course of his career.

If we got the guy ANY help he'd be even better.

Jesus.

First Cassel, now Tamba?

Great players make others around them great, not the other way around.

Anyway, I'm off to bed. This so-called "dominating" performance has made me sleepy. 14 points in 3 quarters is Arena League, and exhausting.

Hammock Parties · 08-27-2010, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Jesus.

First Cassel, now Tamba?

Great players make others around them great, not the other way around.

I never said he was great.

He's a good player who would benefit from other good players around him.

As far as Cassel, he's done shit as a Chief. Hali should not be mentioned in the same breath.

lcarus · 08-27-2010, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

WTF was Kolb thinking there?

Good job by Lewis to go up and get it at its highest point.

Yeah I have a good feeling about Lewis. I think without question this will be one of our best drafts in a loooong time. With Berry, McCluster, Lewis, Asamoah, Arenas, Moeaki, Sheffield...I mean this is just looking like a really good draft by our new leadership. It's still early though. Wish Moeaki had Tony G. to learn from. I also wish Sheffield is ok.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-27-2010, 11:00 PM

My thoughts on the game before I head to bed:

The offense is still ****ing miserable to watch. Cassel is absolutely killing us. Hamas had it right when he said Charles is 80% of this offense. Hope the kid can stay healthy.

Defense looked better in some respects, just as bad in others. They're going to have to be even better to make up for this shitty offense. I'm really not sure if they were actually improved, or if Kolb made us look better than we were. He looked like he had no idea what was going on with his blitz protections. I can't help but think a more experienced QB gets rid of the ball on all of those, instead of taking huge, drive-killing sacks.

I do love the fact that RAC is willing to dial up blitzes, because realistically, it's the only way we're getting sacks unless the DB's are forcing coverage sacks.

Middle of the D is still Charmin Soft. Teams in the regular season won't let us off the hook like Philly did tonight. They'll pound away until we show we can stop it.

DB's looked good as usual.

Saw some good, some bad, and nothing that moves me off my thinking that this is a 6 win team.

Sure-Oz · 08-27-2010, 11:02 PM

I think we draft a QB next year, Cassel can't get past his first read....he looks lost

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-27-2010, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I think we draft a QB next year, Cassel can't get past his first read....he looks lost

Let us pray.

Fish · 08-28-2010, 12:07 AM

Cassel should take Haley's advice and yell at the receivers more....

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-28-2010, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

Cassel should take Haley's advice and yell at the receivers more....

Or up his OWN game before he attempts to?

ChiefsCountry · 08-28-2010, 12:37 AM

Just got back from the game. Here is my take on Cassel tonight. First of all I love my view from my season tickets. Its upperdeck corner, you so get a pretty good view of the line and the WR routes.

Good
Targeting and throwing to Bowe. Bowe makes the passing game go.
Took a Chance and trusted his arm. Unforuntaely it got picked for bouncing off Captain Training Room's hands.

Bad
Pocket pressence. Our line isn't great but its not as bad as Cassel makes it to be. He has no pocket pressence whats so ever. In the first quarter when he took off and ran, if he waited a half second more - he had open guys. Brokei and Bowe were ones I remember.
One one play he threw it outbounds at Bowe. Bowe was breaking to the end zone while Samuel I think was coming towards Cassel. A split second more and Cassel has Bowe for a touchdown. Instead he paniced and chucked it out of bounds.

But all in all you guys seem more pissed on here than I was at the stadium. Guess the extra replays and stuff make a bit more difference.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-28-2010, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Just got back from the game. Here is my take on Cassel tonight. First of all I love my view from my season tickets. Its upperdeck corner, you so get a pretty good view of the line and the WR routes.

Good
Targeting and throwing to Bowe. Bowe makes the passing game go.
Took a Chance and trusted his arm. Unforuntaely it got picked for bouncing off Captain Training Room's hands.

Bad
Pocket pressence. Our line isn't great but its not as bad as Cassel makes it to be. He has no pocket pressence whats so ever. In the first quarter when he took off and ran, if he waited a half second more - he had open guys. Brokei and Bowe were ones I remember.
One one play he threw it outbounds at Bowe. Bowe was breaking to the end zone while Samuel I think was coming towards Cassel. A split second more and Cassel has Bowe for a touchdown. Instead he paniced and chucked it out of bounds.

But all in all you guys seem more pissed on here than I was at the stadium. Guess the extra replays and stuff make a bit more difference.

Yeah, the advantage of having replay has a lot to do with that.

On the first INT, you'll see that the throw was WAY behind Moeaki. He mad a good effort, but you can't expect him to come up with that throw. And it was a terrible decision anyway, because there were two Chiefs WR's and 2 Eagles DB's right there.

His decision making and pocket presence are beyond terrible.

bobbything · 08-28-2010, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Good
Took a Chance and trusted his arm. Unforuntaely it got picked for bouncing off Captain Training Room's hands.

I disagree with this. The throw was behind him and he had a safety and CB on him. If Moeaki lets it go, it probably falls incomplete and everyone is pissed because he didn't make the attempt. The other Tony probably would have done a 360 and made the catch, while taking a monster hit.

The more and more I watch of Cassel, the more I'm convinced that he's absolutely horrible. I'll give him the whole season, but if he doesn't toss at least 20 TDs, and have fewer than 12 INTs (especially with this 4-yard-out offense), then cut his sorry ass. It's strange how he does better in a hurry-up offense. But, you can't run that all the time, and you know he has in his head exactly who he's going to throw the ball to in the hurry-up...which is dangerous.

The more time he has, the less confident I am that he's going to complete the pass or, hell, even get rid of the ball. Which is the exact opposite of how I feel with just about every QB in the league. Even bad QBs, with time, will find someone. Cassel can't seem to do it.

I think we can win with him, but I think we're gonna have to do it with lots and lots of crossing patterns and (dare I say) screens (we don't run nearly enough of these). That seems to be his strength. Whenever we run crossing routes, he seems to find someone. And I understand the staff's hesitation with throwing the ball past 7 yards with Cassel. He sucks at it.

In all honesty, at this point, he's worse than Damon Huard. Worse than Steve Bono. Two of my favorite whipping boys over the years. It's sad to say that, if things don't turn around, Cassel will inherit that throne previously occupied by these two.

08-27-2010, 08:26 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $1020478	14 of 23 for 85 ing yards? Are we playing it close to the vest or are we going to keep Cassel on the NFL's shortest leash all season long? I sincerely hope it's the former, because the latter will be a bunch of bullshit.
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08-27-2010, 10:45 PM	#212
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2221115	WTF was Kolb thinking there? Good job by Lewis to go up and get it at its highest point.
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08-27-2010, 10:48 PM	#214
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2221115	Good run by TJ. Looked like Philly had pulled some starters. Good hold by Pope there.
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08-27-2010, 11:00 PM	#218
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2221115	My thoughts on the game before I head to bed: The offense is still ***ing miserable to watch. Cassel is absolutely killing us. Hamas had it right when he said Charles is 80% of this offense. Hope the kid can stay healthy. Defense looked better in some respects, just as bad in others. They're going to have to be even better to make up for this shitty offense. I'm really not sure if they were actually improved, or if Kolb made us look better than we were. He looked like he had no idea what was going on with his blitz protections. I can't help but think a more experienced QB gets rid of the ball on all of those, instead of taking huge, drive-killing sacks. I do love the fact that RAC is willing to dial up blitzes, because realistically, it's the only way we're getting sacks unless the DB's are forcing coverage sacks. Middle of the D is still Charmin Soft. Teams in the regular season won't let us off the hook like Philly did tonight. They'll pound away until we show we can stop it. DB's looked good as usual. Saw some good, some bad, and nothing that moves me off my thinking that this is a 6 win team. Last edited by OnTheWarpath15; 08-27-2010 at 11:07 PM..*
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08-28-2010, 12:07 AM	#221
Fish Ain't no relax! Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $-1231081	Cassel should take Haley's advice and yell at the receivers more.... __________________
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08-28-2010, 12:37 AM	#223
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1371248	Just got back from the game. Here is my take on Cassel tonight. First of all I love my view from my season tickets. Its upperdeck corner, you so get a pretty good view of the line and the WR routes. Good Targeting and throwing to Bowe. Bowe makes the passing game go. Took a Chance and trusted his arm. Unforuntaely it got picked for bouncing off Captain Training Room's hands. Bad Pocket pressence. Our line isn't great but its not as bad as Cassel makes it to be. He has no pocket pressence whats so ever. In the first quarter when he took off and ran, if he waited a half second more - he had open guys. Brokei and Bowe were ones I remember. One one play he threw it outbounds at Bowe. Bowe was breaking to the end zone while Samuel I think was coming towards Cassel. A split second more and Cassel has Bowe for a touchdown. Instead he paniced and chucked it out of bounds. But all in all you guys seem more pissed on here than I was at the stadium. Guess the extra replays and stuff make a bit more difference.
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