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Old 10-30-2016, 02:25 PM  
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Time for Dee Ford haters to eat some crow
7 sacks in 7 games this year. Technically 8 if not for Tamba being a dumbass last week.

11 sacks in 14 games started in his career.

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Old 11-06-2016, 08:17 PM   #211
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He's definitely started bulking up. Starting to look like mini Houston out there.
I saw a bullrush and when they got to the backfield he just slapped the RT out of the way. And made it look easy.
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Old 11-06-2016, 08:28 PM   #212
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I saw a bullrush and when they got to the backfield he just slapped the RT out of the way. And made it look easy.
Yep, the more I see him, the more obvious it seems that it was just a matter of him getting enough reps to get it. Hali can teach you how to hand fight every day in practice but if you only get a few reps per game, you can never get the technique down. Now with fulltime reps, he's getting the technique down and I saw him use it a few times today.
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Old 11-06-2016, 09:04 PM   #214
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And he's, also starting to use multiple moves. He's not all about speed. He is using his power much better
I definitely noticed that today. There was a play where he went wide and the QB stepped up so he ran out of the play. But on the next play, he faked out wide and then rushed inside. It wasn't a polished inside move, but I was pleased to see it. He's learning.
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:19 PM   #215
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I saw a bullrush and when they got to the backfield he just slapped the RT out of the way. And made it look easy.
Yep, he shoved that right arm into the tackles left shoulder and gained inside leverage

Dude is learning, when Houston gets back... watch out all you AFC posers

He has definitely been listening to Sensei Tamba
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:22 AM   #216
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:27 AM   #217
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Yep, he shoved that right arm into the tackles left shoulder and gained inside leverage

Dude is learning, when Houston gets back... watch out all you AFC posers

He has definitely been listening to Sensei Tamba
He showed a bull rush several times yesterday. One of the plays that Wilson made against the run, I believe in the first quarter, was a result of Ford doing a fantastic job of sealing the edge and forcing the RB upfield right into a waiting Wilson.

The guy's getting better every week and every jackwagon that's come in this thread saying "I ain't eating shit; it took the guy 3 years and he's not Von Miller yet" is just being a stubborn dick at this point. The kid was buried behind 2 great players as a rookie, flashed talent last year and has been the most valuable player on the defense through 8 games this year.

If you 'demand' more than that from anybody, you're just being unreasonable.

Oh, and speaking of Tamba, it's getting a little sad watching him play. I feel like Ford's emergence couldn't have come at a more critical time not just because of his ability to stand in for Houston but because he'll be desperately needed to replace Tamba soon. Hali just doesn't have the explosion off the line he used to have and it's allowing LTs to get the step they need on him and just wait for him to come into their body. He's not on the field much these days and he's not been terribly impactful when he has been. Sad to see time finally run down a war horse like Hali. I'm hopeful he's just saving his energy for a late-season push.
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I saw Hali get thrown to the dirt on at least three separate occasions yesterday. He's essentially ineffective.

Someone said he had 5 pressures but I doubt it. I legitimately don't remember him making a single notable play yesterday.
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I saw Hali get thrown to the dirt on at least three separate occasions yesterday. He's essentially ineffective.

Someone said he had 5 pressures but I doubt it. I legitimately don't remember him making a single notable play yesterday.
I remember one time he got pressure but most of the time I remember him just getting stood straight up. It seems like his handfighting has really fallen off and I think that has something to do with his inability to use that first step to get inside the tackle's arms.

Like I said, as often as not they're just waiting for him so they can get that punch in first and really dictate the play. It may be time to find a way to put his hand in the dirt so he can try to close the gap a bit. I'm not sure if he has the lower body strength to be effective in that role now that his knees are abandoning him, but that may be the way to keep him valuable.

Or you just hope that he's saving it and/or still building leg strength and stability back up. He just doesn't seem terribly useful right now.
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When houston comes back, I'd think about kicking hali inside on some pass rush plays maybe
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Tamba looked bad yesterday bc he was tired and worn out. He played 53 snaps (69%). That's the most snaps he's played all season.

The reality is that Tamba needs to be playing 35 snaps Max the rest of the regular season to stay fresh and not overwork his legs. There's no reason Tamba should be on the field if we are up by double-digits.

Houston coming back should start to help here, but I'd still like to get Nicolas some obvious passing snaps as well.
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I guess I was mistaken about sack totals. I thought that Vondouchebag had 7.5 sacks prior to last night and one last night made 8.5. But he has 9.5 now so I missed one somewhere. Still, Dee Ford is half a sack behind in one less game.
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Read an article about a month ago regarding Hali that said because of his offseason surgery he is being limited reps because improvement from the procedure would take at least until mid December.

Some of it is to alleviate bone on bone pain, and HA injections form a highly dense matrix of cushion. It also has to settle in and anchor into the spot you want it to be placed. Casual movement and limited strenuous movement is alright, but too much too often would essentially push out the gel at the highest pressure points where you need it most.
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He showed a bull rush several times yesterday. One of the plays that Wilson made against the run, I believe in the first quarter, was a result of Ford doing a fantastic job of sealing the edge and forcing the RB upfield right into a waiting Wilson.

The guy's getting better every week and every jackwagon that's come in this thread saying "I ain't eating shit; it took the guy 3 years and he's not Von Miller yet" is just being a stubborn dick at this point. The kid was buried behind 2 great players as a rookie, flashed talent last year and has been the most valuable player on the defense through 8 games this year.

If you 'demand' more than that from anybody, you're just being unreasonable.

Oh, and speaking of Tamba, it's getting a little sad watching him play. I feel like Ford's emergence couldn't have come at a more critical time not just because of his ability to stand in for Houston but because he'll be desperately needed to replace Tamba soon. Hali just doesn't have the explosion off the line he used to have and it's allowing LTs to get the step they need on him and just wait for him to come into their body. He's not on the field much these days and he's not been terribly impactful when he has been. Sad to see time finally run down a war horse like Hali. I'm hopeful he's just saving his energy for a late-season push.
Agreed on all

He definitely showed an effective bullrush several times yesterday, and is showing an ability to get inside of his guy instead of being ridden wide of the play all the time, as so often happened earlier in his career... its certainly time he started getting some respect from people

Yeah, poor Tamba... the best thing thats going to happen for him is Houston coming back so his reps can be reduced significantly, that should really help his productivity

The saying "I aint as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was" comes to mind

And I like your idea from another post about maybe trying him with his hand in the dirt, it just might help him close that gap faster
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