Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-17-2017, 12:35 PM  
OnTheWarpath15 OnTheWarpath15 is offline
MVP
 
OnTheWarpath15's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Casino cash: $4691115
MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith?

Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.

Quote:
The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.

Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”

And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:

Get to the Super Bowl.

And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.

This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy
Posts: 60,273
OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 05:46 PM   #211
RobBlake RobBlake is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Aug 2013
Casino cash: $10011127
Quote:
Originally Posted by New World Order View Post
Is that what we're shooting for boss?
Well, SB is obviously goal number one.. but so is home field advantage
Posts: 7,127
RobBlake Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.RobBlake Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.RobBlake Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.RobBlake Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.RobBlake Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.RobBlake Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.RobBlake Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.RobBlake Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.RobBlake Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.RobBlake Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.RobBlake Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 05:48 PM   #212
kccrow kccrow is offline
MVP
 
kccrow's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Michigan
Casino cash: $2837078
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 View Post
Then you're just as guilty as he is for destroying this board.
This board was destroyed long before Tigger came here. It'd be nice to have it be what it once was, but I'm not sure that's even possible any more. Too much bitterness. A fan base that goes from Huard to Thigpen to Cassel to Smith is bound to be extremely bitter until they get something good.
Posts: 12,687
kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 05:49 PM   #213
temper11 temper11 is offline
Veteran
 
temper11's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2013
Casino cash: $10014156
Quote:
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 View Post
I get your point, but you could say the same for Pittsburgh in a lot of ways.

If Pittsburgh scores on just one or two of their redzone trips, we still lose.
I don't remember Pittsburgh receivers dropping very catch-able passes. I could be wrong, and I plan to re-watch, but I remember thinking that the DB's affected the catch, ripped balls away, etc. We just had straight out drops....

Ben wasn't pressured at all. I think he only was hurried 2 or 3 times. Only touched the ground once and he had an unstoppable running game to lean on. Chiefs were dominated in the trenches - which is usually the unspoken reason for winning and losing.

Chiefs drives stalled because of self-inflicted wounds. Steelers drives stalled because the Chiefs defense eventually held their ground. If just one guy makes one of those plays... well, no sense traveling down that road.
__________________
**disclaimer. Nothing in this post was meant to offend, or in any way slander the good people of Kansas City or the obviously passionate fans of the KC Chiefs.
Posts: 2,763
temper11 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellitemper11 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellitemper11 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellitemper11 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellitemper11 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellitemper11 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellitemper11 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellitemper11 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellitemper11 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellitemper11 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellitemper11 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 05:54 PM   #214
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $2499099
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobBlake View Post
From someone whose own team is is crumbles... with Alex in place, there's a great chance of winning the division again next year. Los Angeles *lol* are gonna be trash again, Denver still have an average offense and defense is strong but beatable and the raiders are on the rise. I think the position should be open but having Alex during the reg season can at least guarantee a seat in the playoffs. I'm not sure it's the right time to change leadership unless the next guy is polished enough to do the job. The division is more open than it's been since when? Put Smith on a tight leash, make it publicly known, give Foles some big looks during practice and preseason, draft a earlier round QB and keep it going.
The view from the bottom of shit mountain isn't exactly the view I care greatly about.

Sure, Alex Smith is going to keep your team from being a festering boil. That's not my goal with this roster. This is a championship caliber roster and going 1 and done for 2-3 more years as it gets worse and the roster ages wouldn't bother me a hell of a lot more than bottoming out altogether.

I'll take the risk for the reward.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 60,944
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 05:54 PM   #215
FanOfRED FanOfRED is offline
Starter
 
FanOfRED's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Right here.
Casino cash: $10000400
My biggest issue with Smith is his confidence level. Maybe it's just me but when he gets shaken up a little like sacked or throws an interception, he appears to lose confidence. His posture and footwork start to fall apart. He throws only short or lateral passes. It seems like he has a hard time shaking off the last bad play and grab ahold of horns again. Maybe a reason why Reid calls the plays he calls. I wouldn't trust him throwing down the field to change the momentum if he starts acting like nervous nelly. Especially if he's had pressure.
Posts: 522
FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 06:01 PM   #216
The Franchise The Franchise is offline
Most Valuable Villain
 
The Franchise's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Casino cash: $2615047
Is there a loss of trust between Reid and Smith? After that delay of game from Smith......(I can't remember how far later) Reid took the timeout when the playclock was down to around 1 second left. They showed a close up of Smith's face and he either looked pissed that Reid called a timeout or surprised.
Posts: 92,310
The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 06:07 PM   #217
TigeRRUppeRRcut TigeRRUppeRRcut is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: 19th Hole
Casino cash: $10004725
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
Don't care.

The question isn't really 'how many points would Brady put up', it's 'how many points would Cousins put up?'

Holding any quarterback to a HoF standard is asking him to fail. But lets hold him up to the standard of just a pretty damn good quarterback with the kind of attacking attitude you'd like to see in a passer with this caliber of weapons.

For me, the answer's somewhere between 27 and 35 against that defense.
Pitt's defense has improved dramatically since Dupree and their young corners have been plugged into the system. Like night and day difference.
Posts: 11,680
TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 06:10 PM   #218
The Franchise The Franchise is offline
Most Valuable Villain
 
The Franchise's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Casino cash: $2615047
Quote:
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut View Post
Pitt's defense has improved dramatically since Dupree and their young corners have been plugged into the system. Like night and day difference.
Is that why the Browns put up 24 points on them? Or how about the Ravens with 27?
Posts: 92,310
The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 06:13 PM   #219
FanOfRED FanOfRED is offline
Starter
 
FanOfRED's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Right here.
Casino cash: $10000400
Quote:
Originally Posted by kccrow View Post
This board was destroyed long before Tigger came here. It'd be nice to have it be what it once was, but I'm not sure that's even possible any more. Too much bitterness. A fan base that goes from Huard to Thigpen to Cassel to Smith is bound to be extremely bitter until they get something good.
I agree. Not so much in regards to the board since I'm a noob but to the bitterness. When you watch this team and you have such high hopes. That this year looks like it could finally be it. The talent is so spread out. Especially during the 90s and the last few years. There seems to be so much potential but yet there is always a gear in the machine that just throws off the whole damn thing. It's gut wrenching. It's disappointing. Unfortunately or maybe fortunately, I am at the state now that I know I will not be disappointed in being disappointed. But I will be back next year. With high hopes and optimism cheering for the Chiefs. In hopes that one year I can say "Hell YEA!!! The Kansas City CHIEEEEEEFS are the SB champions!!!!!" Then kill over in shock.
Posts: 522
FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.FanOfRED is not part of the Right 53.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 06:14 PM   #220
TigeRRUppeRRcut TigeRRUppeRRcut is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: 19th Hole
Casino cash: $10004725
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/s...s/201612160105

Do more reading, pal
Posts: 11,680
TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 06:16 PM   #221
Titty Meat Titty Meat is offline
Inmem 2.0
 
Titty Meat's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: My house
Casino cash: $1767558
So replace Smith with Foles/Mahomes? Lawlz
Posts: 75,622
Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 06:26 PM   #222
dls6501 dls6501 is offline
Veteran
 
dls6501's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2014
Casino cash: $9960375
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobBlake View Post
With all sincerity. I would attempt this throw, even with harrison on his way... how tf can he can see that as a TD or an incomplete AT WORST. He can even toss it to the left of Hill to avoid any potential pass break up. Disgusting.
The pass rusher is a good 8 yards away from Alex when he takes off.

Absolutely inept quarterbacking.
Posts: 1,430
dls6501 would the whole thing.dls6501 would the whole thing.dls6501 would the whole thing.dls6501 would the whole thing.dls6501 would the whole thing.dls6501 would the whole thing.dls6501 would the whole thing.dls6501 would the whole thing.dls6501 would the whole thing.dls6501 would the whole thing.dls6501 would the whole thing.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 06:31 PM   #223
Mr. Laz Mr. Laz is offline
Don't Tease Me
 
Mr. Laz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: KS
Casino cash: $11047037
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pestilence View Post
Is there a loss of trust between Reid and Smith? After that delay of game from Smith......(I can't remember how far later) Reid took the timeout when the playclock was down to around 1 second left. They showed a close up of Smith's face and he either looked pissed that Reid called a timeout or surprised.
The plays were coming in too late.

Clearly, the game plan was for Smith to go under center until the defense showed it's blitz/coverage etc and then audible out to something else. The problem is that you can't do that if the play call doesn't come down until only 10 seconds are left.

Reid and his 3 men involved in the play calling makes it too slow. We can't run a hurry up offense because we take forever to get the plays in.

Andy calls plays about as fast as his fat ass takes to walk out on the field.
__________________
Posts: 95,626
Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 06:40 PM   #224
SAUTO SAUTO is offline
Shit
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Casino cash: $10039067
Quote:
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut View Post
You switch QBs for sunday's game, Steelers would have won by at least 10
Posts: 55,715
SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 06:53 PM   #225
RunKC RunKC is offline
Andy Reid Supporter
 
RunKC's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2012
Casino cash: $1749611
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay View Post
So replace Smith with Foles/Mahomes? Lawlz
Yeah. How could either of them replace Alex's 15 TD passes lmao
__________________
Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny
I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs.


Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
Posts: 46,430
RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:34 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.