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View Poll Results: What to do with Carr?
Resign Carr at basically Flowers' contract. 185 89.81%
Let Carr walk. Draft a corner high. Collect a 3rd or 4th compensatory pick next draft. 17 8.25%
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Old 12-05-2011, 01:41 AM  
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Re-Signing Brandon Carr: What Do You Do

There's about four more week of football ahead of us.

We've managed to wrap up Brandon Flowers during the season, Tamba Hali this offseason, DJ and Jamaal Charles last offseason...

This offseason, we have two very important players hitting free agency, and one franchise tag.

The tag goes to Bowe, no sweat. It's impossible to find franchise WRs, and when you have one, you must keep it. He's Top 10 at his position. Carr, for all his talent, is not. He's maybe top 25.

But what would you do if:

Carr (or, more likely, his agent) knows Carr is bound to be drastically overpaid on the free agent market, as young talent almost always is.

He knows the Chiefs desperately want Carr to stay on board. And the Chiefs have no leverage to keep him on board because their franchise tag is tied up with Bowe.

So knowing he has ALL the leverage in this situation, Carr opens big:

"I want 5 years, $50 million, $22 million guaranteed.

Just like my teammate, Brandon Flowers." (And other top flight corners like Johnathan Joseph, who got almost the exact same deal.)

You can haggle with Carr, but keep in mind, you're incredibly time-pressured, and Carr knows he has the leverage here. Even if you get him to come down, it's going to be nickels and dimes lower, not much else.

Do you (a.) sign Carr to a damn near identical deal to Brandon Flowers, or (b.)let Carr walk and just collect the 3rd or 4th round compensatory pick next year.

That's likely going to be our options at this point, folks.

Poll forthcoming.
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:10 PM   #226
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Patriots would sign him in a minute and I would ****ing cry and break stuff
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:20 PM   #227
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Patriots would sign him in a minute and I would ****ing cry and break stuff
What makes it worse is he is such a character guy and would make such a great fit there. And Pioli was supposed to bring the "Patriots Way" here...Not that any of us wanted to do things the Patriots way besides the winning part. So much for that, and re-signing homegrown guys. What kind of message does that send to the young players in the organization coming up, as well as FA prospects looking for a place to sign. "We don't want to pay our young players and the only FAs we will sign are second rate guys that are cheap versions of the first rate guys." Yeah, that's the type of organization I would want to play for.
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:49 PM   #228
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Somebody needs to spell this out for me:

1. Can Carr sign with any team prior to March 13th?

2. Can the Chiefs sign Carr during this three-month layover?
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:50 PM   #229
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Somebody needs to spell this out for me:

1. Can Carr sign with any team prior to March 13th?

2. Can the Chiefs sign Carr during this three-month layover?
No one can sign him till mar 13
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:57 PM   #230
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No one can sign him till mar 13
Can he entertain offers?

Do the Chiefs get a three-month window of exclusive conversations?
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:04 AM   #231
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What makes it worse is he is such a character guy and would make such a great fit there. And Pioli was supposed to bring the "Patriots Way" here...Not that any of us wanted to do things the Patriots way besides the winning part. So much for that, and re-signing homegrown guys. What kind of message does that send to the young players in the organization coming up, as well as FA prospects looking for a place to sign. "We don't want to pay our young players and the only FAs we will sign are second rate guys that are cheap versions of the first rate guys." Yeah, that's the type of organization I would want to play for.
LOLWUT

If Carr signs elsewhere, it will be because somebody significantly overpaid during a timescale when we literally can't sign him till March.

Saying we haven't re-signed our own free agents is simply not true.

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Old 01-03-2012, 12:07 AM   #232
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Maybe we can get Bowe signed in three months, and stamp the franchise tag on Carr...
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We don't want to pay Carr that much.
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There is simply no excuse not to re-sign Carr. As much as I bitch about us never being active in free agency, I'll still be somewhat happy as long as we re-sign our own guys. There is simply no excuse for having one of the lowest payrolls year after year if you won't sign your own homegrown talent. As far as I'm concerned I'll be happy with avoiding high priced free agents if it means signing our own guys.

Of course, Pioli had better pull his head out of his ass this year and realize we need free agency to add depth to this team.
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if he hits FA we will lose any bidding war with any larger market so....
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Brandon Carr will make a lot of $$ this offseason. Consistent, above-average starting CB. Only 26.
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I would understand not giving him 50 million, but we need to get him resigned $35-$40 million range seems about right.

Carr, Flowers, Berry, Lewis could be the best defensive backfield in the NFL as soon as next year.
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I would understand not giving him 50 million, but we need to get him resigned $35-$40 million range seems about right.
Carr, Flowers, Berry, Lewis could be the best defensive backfield in the NFL as soon as next year.
Right there is why he wont be back ......Cowboys or Pats will give him flowers money.
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If we lose him or Bowe without getting something in return, I'll pretty much lose what little faith I have left and realize this franchise isn't going to ever pursue a championship.
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