Fantasy Football The Mythical Ricky Stanzi - Page 16

**Bowser** · 04-29-2012, 05:27 PM

Why? Why is this guy held in such high regard around here? I remember him leading exactly *ONE* touchdown drive of note last preseason, and really don't remember him sticking in my memory as a guy that I'd love to have on my team coming out of college.

Are we so starved for a quarterback, ANY quarterback, that we bring up through the ranks to finally break through and be THE GUY that we would put this seemingly average and nondescript player up on a pedestal? I mean, seriously, he couldn't even beat out Tyler Palko for the backup gig. Tyler. Freaking. Palko. It makes me wish I were more of a Hawkeye fan just so I could buy into the "hype" surrounding him. I haven't seen this much hopefull wishing since Casey Printers and Ted White didn't make the team.

So, sell me on this phenom named Stanzi. I dare you.

tooge · 05-10-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ricoswaff

Had some ups and downs in the 1st game...hard to tell with the lack of protection. Looked mostly bad in the 2nd game, but again... had $hit for protection. Had some shaky moments in the 3rd game, but seemed to progress as the game went on.

I watched the three videos from preseason games one, two, and three. I basically counted the number of times it appeared that Stanzi had even a remote chance to complete a pass because of adequate time without the pocket totally colapsing around him. I figured with that, he was about 15 for 25 with a TD and an INT on a deflection. I think he would have more time with a decent O line. I hope we see the kid at least get a chance.

rico · 05-10-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge

I watched the three videos from preseason games one, two, and three. I basically counted the number of times it appeared that Stanzi had even a remote chance to complete a pass because of adequate time without the pocket totally colapsing around him. I figured with that, he was about 15 for 25 with a TD and an INT on a deflection. I think he would have more time with a decent O line. I hope we see the kid at least get a chance.

I think it sheds some light on how we actually ended up with a guy like Barry Richardson on our OL. On some of those plays, they are in Stanzi's face literally a second after the ball is snapped.

whoman69 · 05-10-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Would any of you trade Stanzi straight up for Brock Osweiler?

The minute we trade Stanzi he is guaranteed to win at least 2 Super Bowls and be a first ballot HOFer.

mcaj22 · 05-10-2012, 04:36 PM

id like to see Stanzi with real NFL talent around him not 10 other guys where 8 of them are currently out of league

saphojunkie · 05-10-2012, 04:46 PM

Jeez no wonder we drafted Donald Stephenson. Mims is unbelievably bad.

Ace Gunner · 05-10-2012, 05:16 PM

if ever there was a "trent green pt II" this is the guy. noodle arm but smart & patient, has some close range accuracy.

but without a stellar OL and a smart tough RB like PH, green was nothing and that's like ricki stanzi was last pre season.

it could work out for him like it did green. maybe not.

**BossChief** · 05-10-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Osweiler's a big (literally) hit-or-miss prospect. Stanzi had a little more balance coming out of college and has a year's worth of experience in the NFL. Simply, he's more valuable than Osweiler. And if you're in the Chiefs' situation and don't have Peyton Manning as your starting QB, Stanzi BY FAR makes more sense.

Besides, what's Osweiler's ceiling? Big Ben? Hell yeah I'd love to have Big Ben as my starting QB. What's Stanzi's ceiling? Tom Brady. Also pretty damn good.

Both QBs have the same incredibly small chance of achieving their respective ceilings, but Stanzi IS one year into his NFL career. He's got a significant leg up.

Screw homerism being a reason you'd keep him. I think he's just as good as Osweiler as a prospect. It makes no ****ing sense whatsoever to draft a developmental QB then chuck him in the garbage after one year and take another guy when the potential payoff isn't all that much better. In fact, it's far more likely that Osweiler is a giant bust based on the steep learning curve he has.

I might not have worded it correctly but I was saying that "homerism" had NOTHING to do with my take on the situation.

I said way before the draft that there were only 3 qbs that I felt were better than my boy and I meant it.

Just like I meant it when I said Stanzi was a mid-late second round quality prospect.

I'll ALWAYS believe that Stanzi would have had a similar rookie year to that of Dalton if given the chance. I think they were very similar prospects.

Prior to the draft most draft niks had them in the same tier.

**BossChief** · 05-10-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan

if ever there was a "trent green pt II" this is the guy. noodle arm but smart & patient, has some close range accuracy.

but without a stellar OL and a smart tough RB like PH, green was nothing and that's like ricki stanzi was last pre season.

it could work out for him like it did green. maybe not.

Stanzi and Green had noodle arms?

BillSelfsTrophycase · 05-10-2012, 05:32 PM

boogblaster · 05-10-2012, 05:36 PM

green thru one of the best sideline pass routes in the league at that time .. no his arm wasnt a noodle .....

**RealSNR** · 05-10-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Prior to the draft most draft niks had them in the same tier.

Definitely. And that's going to be the annoying part this entire offseason (as it has been all offseason)- determining why Dalton got the break in the draft and Stanzi fell.

I still think that scouts placed far too much emphasis on the mistakes Stanzi made as a sophomore and junior. Whatever, though. We never will find out why teams soured on him the way we did.

Ace Gunner · 05-10-2012, 05:46 PM

jesus christ you ppl are dense. trent green had a weak arm. he wasn't very good. that's why the chargers drafted him in the 10th round and that is why.... holy **** forget it. stanzi is montana. or elway or whover you ****tards want him to be.

BillSelfsTrophycase · 05-10-2012, 05:53 PM

Wut?

Trent Green certainly wasn't elite, but "not very good"?

vailpass · 05-10-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Definitely. And that's going to be the annoying part this entire offseason (as it has been all offseason)- determining why Dalton got the break in the draft and Stanzi fell.

I still think that scouts placed far too much emphasis on the mistakes Stanzi made as a sophomore and junior. Whatever, though. We never will find out why teams soured on him the way we did.

Those mistakes were &%$#@!* maddening though. But I always forgave him for the regular season mistakes once bowl time rolled around.

rico · 05-10-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Definitely. And that's going to be the annoying part this entire offseason (as it has been all offseason)- determining why Dalton got the break in the draft and Stanzi fell.

I still think that scouts placed far too much emphasis on the mistakes Stanzi made as a sophomore and junior. Whatever, though. We never will find out why teams soured on him the way we did.

What teams were rumored to have worked him out or were rumored to have been scouting him heavily? I have heard the Titans, Bengals and Browns worked him out. Were there any others? In 2011, I can't remember off the top of my head who those teams ended up drafting in the rounds leading to Stanzi in #5 (with an exception of the Bengals selecting Dalton and the Titans selecting Locker)... With those teams, I am guessing the Bengals preferred Dalton over Stanzi and the Titans liked Locker a lot. I am guessing that the Browns were still teeter-tottering with Colt Mccoy at the time. Were the 49ers rumored to have scouted Stanzi heavily?

04-29-2012, 05:27 PM
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Ace Gunner First Overall Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: kcmo Casino cash: $10007271	jesus christ you ppl are dense. trent green had a weak arm. he wasn't very good. that's why the chargers drafted him in the 10th round and that is why.... holy ** forget it. stanzi is montana. or elway or whover you **tards want him to be. __________________ The Greatest
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BillSelfsTrophycase WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION Join Date: Oct 2009 Casino cash: $10009313	Wut? Trent Green certainly wasn't elite, but "not very good"?
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