NFL's Best OLB: Houston vs. Miller

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Got into a debate with a Donkey fan regarding this topic earlier this week, but I love it. I think it's one that can be argued both ways, but personally I take a healthy Houston every day over a healthy Miller. Place your vote and make your own case below.

Things to keep in mind:

Justin Houston career numbers:
- 64 starts
-56 sacks (2011: 5.5 in 10 starts, 2012: 10.0 in 16 starts, 2013: 11.0 in 11 starts, 2014: 22.0 in 16 starts, 2015: 7.5 in 10 games)
- 3 interceptions
- 25 passes defensed
- 8 forced fumbles/ 5 recoveries
- 1 touchdown (INT), 1 safety
- Hasn't been flagged for anything since the 2013 season


Von Miller career numbers:
- 72 starts
- 60 sacks (2011: 11.5 in 15 starts, 2012: 18.5 in 16 starts, 2013: 5.0 in 9 starts, 2014: 14.0 in 16 starts, 2015: 11.0 in 16 starts)
- 1 interception
- 10 passes defensed
- 17 forced fumbles/ 5 recoveries
- 1 touchdown (INT), 1 touchdown (fumble recovery), 0 safeties
- Consistently penalized, often for personal fouls

For me, considering the numbers..... I still take Houston. Statistically, I can argue he's been better in every phase of the game except for forcing fumbles. Miller does have the playoff success to attribute in his argument, but Houston of course didn't hardly play in this year's playoffs. Regardless, this a fun topic no matter the time of year. So, who do you take?

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Mack hit both sides of the line that day, he also had ten other sacks which is one less than Miller's season total. Mack also played the first half of the season with a bad groin.

Mack is a better all around player than Miller for sure. I think he's better than Houston as well.

He got Schofield four times and Ryan Harris once. Neither of those guys have any business starting in the NFL. Schofield was probably the worst tackle in the league and Ryan Harris had never played LT in his life before this year.

Von isn't just a pass rusher, he's as good against the run as any OLB in the NFL.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by kccrow

You should really think before you post sometimes. Please reference the 2016 punting statistics. Dustin was better in every single statistical category. Every single one. Higher Average. Higher Net. Higher Number of Punts Inside the 20. Higher Number of Fair Catches. Fewer Number of Returns. Fewer Number of Return Yards. Fewer Out of Bounds. The only thing Britton managed to do better was punt 9 more times.

again ... not this year


Dustin had an off-year

I think he made a tackle about a 1/3 of the way through the season and got hurt. Wasn't the same for the rest of the year.

[Steve Sewell]

Ask yourself this question...if you asked every GM in the league who they'd rather have, what do you think the answer would be 31 times out of 32 (and really 32 times out of 32 because one would be lying for PR reasons)?

[TEX]

Originally Posted by RunKC

While true, our players didn't show up. Dee Ford could have changed the game from the beginning but missed a simple sack.

Yep. They talked it up and acted the part, but in my opinion they were just happy to FINALLY win a playoff game. They did not do the things against the Patriots that they had done during most of their 11-game win streak - and yes, in spite of the fact that the Patriots are the Patriots, the Chiefs had PLENTY of chances to sway the game in their favor - especially early.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Steve Sewell

Ask yourself this question...if you asked every GM in the league who they'd rather have, what do you think the answer would be 31 times out of 32 (and really 32 times out of 32 because one would be lying for PR reasons)?

As of right now it'd likely go Miller.

On this date in 2015 it would have likely gone to Houston.

It is a good discussion overall. Recency bias really ****s everything up though.

[OctoberFart]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Again, Eric Fisher ****ing owns Von Miller. Wears him like a cheap suit.

And it was a fumble and two dropped interceptions that kept the Chiefs from beating the Patriots in Boston in the playoffs. Statistically, the Chiefs were the better team on the field.

Too bad game is scored on the scoreboard. That game wasn't near as close as the score.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by OctoberFart

Too bad game is scored on the scoreboard. That game wasn't near as close as the score.

GTFOH with that bullshit.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

again ... not this year


Dustin had an off-year

I think he made a tackle about a 1/3 of the way through the season and got hurt. Wasn't the same for the rest of the year.

I'm going to go ahead and rifle you back towards the end of the list of posters here who make absolutely zero sense. Lil Smokey's thread on wiping his ass makes more sense than this shit.

[Bambi]

Anyone still talkin shit?

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Bambi

Anyone still talkin shit?

Only the foolish ones.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Only the foolish ones.

Both Von and Houston have had ACL recoveries dumbass

[O.city]

VoN missed a supwrbowl with a torn acl, what a fat pussy

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Lol @ these dumb bastards insisting that this injury makes Houston worse in this debate.

As already stated, Von actually tore his ACL, Houston just had to get his functioning right.

As if you idiots don't sound dumb enough now, it's a matter of time til Miller or Mack or Watt get hurt again, we'll see what you're saying then.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Holy shit bambi and bitch are a total abortion on every topic. It's almost impossible to be that dumb.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Holy shit bambi and bitch are a total abortion on every topic. It's almost impossible to be that dumb.

Blackturd/Blackbob/Tigeruppercut.

Way dumber.