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Old 04-03-2016, 09:48 AM  
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And so it begins: The Royals' second straight attempt to repeat as AL Champions, and first attempt to repeat as World Series champions.

In this thread, we'll track all non-gameday action. Roster moves, prospect news, etc.

I'll start the thread as usual, with division rivals thoughts. I still like KC to repeat as AL Central champs. Here's how I see the rest of it shaking out:

2) Indians - they have the pitching (and seem to have at least semi-Kluber-ed Cody Anderson, who added 3 mph to his fastball in the offseason). Will the offense hold up? I think this is a team that ends up looking a lot like the 2014 Royals. Francisco Lindor will solidify their IF defense over the full season, and is a help with the bat. I think this club is still a year away from really breaking through - the offense still has a lot of question marks - but I like them to nab a wildcard spot.

Key Player(s): Michael Brantley. When Brantley returns - and how he hits when he does - will be critical to the Indians' ability to be good enough on offense.

Jason Kipnis. Kipnis has been an enigmatic offensive performer for the past several years. If he finally has a good offensive campaign from start to finish, Cleveland could make real noise.

Something of interest to me: For all the acclaim the Twins' farm system gets, I look at the Indians young players, and would much rather have them. Brad Zimmer is going to be a very good all-around CF. Clint Frazier has huge power potential and should arrive soon (2017). Lindor is a young stud.

3) Tigers - Old and dependent on a few stars. If Verlander and Sanchez are healthy and effective, they will be playoff contenders. I'm sure JD Martinez will continue to hit roid-aided bombs. I'm also pretty sure Victor Martinez's days as a huge power threat are gone.

Key player: Justin Verlander. Detroit people would have you believe he figured out how to succeed without his big fastball in September of last year. If that's true, and he returns to dominant form, Detroit will likely contend again.

Something of interest to me: Will Jose Iglesias stay healthy and not try to kill teammates in the dugout? His defense makes the whole group much better.

4) Twins - They won't lead the division or be in playoff contention for as long this year, but Minnesota will avoid the cellar.

Key Player: Miguel Sano. Huge power, huge K rate. Can he continue to drive the ball and be a plus offensive player? Probably needs to cut that 35 percent K percentage to do so.

Something of interest to me: Will teams challenge Sano inside with hard stuff? Working away, away, just lets his power play up. Also - will Mike Berardino continue to be the biggest beat writer homer in MLB?

5) White Sox - still managed by a shitty manager who can't control his clubhouse (The blame for the LaRoche thing really should fall on him, not the GM). Still have a shitty overall defense and a lot of douchebags on the team. They will once again look better on paper than they actually perform.

Key player: Carlos Rodon. The White Sox need Rodon to take a big step forward to make an actual move this season. He's got the talent...

And, as always, here are the prospects.

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Old 06-29-2016, 08:36 AM   #2446
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He has big upside - but hasn't got much O support since playing here in Atlanta - He'd do well in KC - I'd all but guarantee you that.


I think his upside has basically been reached. He's a good pitcher (and better than anyone on KC currently, though Duffy is in the same territory, potentially), but without a dynamite breaking pitch, I think he'd take a step back in the AL.

Either at, Teheran to KC is highly unlikely, IMO. His value is at a peak, and the Braves are going to demand a ton for him.

I don't think KC could get to that deal without moving Mondesi, and so think that's a complete nonstarter.


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Old 06-29-2016, 08:46 AM   #2447
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He's had both good and bad games with both so I don't think it matters that much who the catcher is.
I watched the game DVR'd. He's just not very tight with his mechanics right now, so it doesn't matter who's catching him, IMO. And truthfully, this has been an ongoing issue with him since the beginning of 2015. Between the mechanics and the game going on between his ears, there's just no consistency there. June is a great example on his wild inconsistencies. 3 great outings and 2 forgettable starts. There just aren't a lot of starts for Yo where he has an average outing: 6.0 innings, 2-3 ER's and more K's than BB's. He's approached being an all or nothing pitcher. The last time he's pitched with any consistency (good, not bad), was the Month of April. May was a train wreck and June was a roller coaster.

On a positive note, I will say that Yo, before last nights game, really looked like he had solved his issue with giving up an inordinate amount of walks. 6 total for the month of June is very good over 29 innings pitched.
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Old 06-29-2016, 09:05 AM   #2448
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I'm not sure I want to move a guy like Dozier, who could also really help the big league club.
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Old 06-29-2016, 09:36 AM   #2450
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I wonder if the Twins would move Brian Dozier. He is 29 now and would they be able to compete before he starts to decline or his contract is up? I dont know much about their system but they seem very far away.
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Old 06-29-2016, 09:38 AM   #2451
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I'm not sure I want to move a guy like Dozier, who could also really help the big league club.


In a perfect world, you wouldn't have to, but the Royals' world - and rotation - are far from perfect.

Drew Pomeranz would be a nice fit for KC, as :
1) he has three years of control remaining after this year
2) aj Preller is a dumbass

Not sure what would need to go in that package in addition to Dozier, but that would be a win-win situation for both teams, potentially.

Only caution other than giving up 6.5 years of Dozier is that Pomeranz has been off-injured.


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Old 06-29-2016, 10:45 AM   #2452
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I watched the game DVR'd. He's just not very tight with his mechanics right now, so it doesn't matter who's catching him, IMO. And truthfully, this has been an ongoing issue with him since the beginning of 2015. Between the mechanics and the game going on between his ears, there's just no consistency there. June is a great example on his wild inconsistencies. 3 great outings and 2 forgettable starts. There just aren't a lot of starts for Yo where he has an average outing: 6.0 innings, 2-3 ER's and more K's than BB's. He's approached being an all or nothing pitcher. The last time he's pitched with any consistency (good, not bad), was the Month of April. May was a train wreck and June was a roller coaster.

On a positive note, I will say that Yo, before last nights game, really looked like he had solved his issue with giving up an inordinate amount of walks. 6 total for the month of June is very good over 29 innings pitched.
Pretty shitty strike zone last night and he got nickeled and dimed on the hits. It wasn't like his Baltimore start.
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Watching Cody Reed get lit up by the Cubs this afternoon. Cincy is such a bandbox, it's really not a place to rush a young pitcher into. I wonder if any of the three former Royals will make it. No wonder the Reds never develop pitchers.
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I seriously am iffy on being aggressive in the trade market this year probably because the bulk of the starting rotation has been bad or so inconsistent. Young has no business in the rotation.

I still think Duffy has it in him to give you a quality number 3 type of performance consistently. Can Edison return to high 2 rotation numbers? Will Ventura get back on track in the 2nd half of the season like last year?
Still have to see if Medlan is improved coming off rehab.

The SP has underwhelmed significantly to this point, but you have to see some clear evidence of a couple of these guys turning the corner if you want to justify making the move for an impact arm and trading away other talent in the farm system.

Last year, the acquisition of those couple pieces made total sense because it filled out what was needed and very recognizable.

This SP this year has been so weak, acquiring one top arm may not have the impact because the rest of the rotation has been shaky at best.

So, then you have to weigh if trading future talent is going to ultimately impact your franchise negatively for a rental who might net you 5 or 6 more wins but don't realistically improve your likelihood of a deep postseason.
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I think his upside has basically been reached. He's a good pitcher (and better than anyone on KC currently, though Duffy is in the same territory, potentially), but without a dynamite breaking pitch, I think he'd take a step back in the AL.

Either at, Teheran to KC is highly unlikely, IMO. His value is at a peak, and the Braves are going to demand a ton for him.

I don't think KC could get to that deal without moving Mondesi, and so think that's a complete nonstarter.


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I see. I'd love to have him go to KC - but yeah - would be a lot.
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Watching Cody Reed get lit up by the Cubs this afternoon. Cincy is such a bandbox, it's really not a place to rush a young pitcher into. I wonder if any of the three former Royals will make it. No wonder the Reds never develop pitchers.

Reed needs a third pitch, especially one to keep RH batters off balance. He's murder on lefties with that fastball/slider combo, but he needs more.

Not surprised to see the Cubs light him up. Lot of RH pop in that lineup.

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I seriously am iffy on being aggressive in the trade market this year probably because the bulk of the starting rotation has been bad or so inconsistent. Young has no business in the rotation.

I still think Duffy has it in him to give you a quality number 3 type of performance consistently. Can Edison return to high 2 rotation numbers? Will Ventura get back on track in the 2nd half of the season like last year?
Still have to see if Medlan is improved coming off rehab.

The SP has underwhelmed significantly to this point, but you have to see some clear evidence of a couple of these guys turning the corner if you want to justify making the move for an impact arm and trading away other talent in the farm system.

Last year, the acquisition of those couple pieces made total sense because it filled out what was needed and very recognizable.

This SP this year has been so weak, acquiring one top arm may not have the impact because the rest of the rotation has been shaky at best.

So, then you have to weigh if trading future talent is going to ultimately impact your franchise negatively for a rental who might net you 5 or 6 more wins but don't realistically improve your likelihood of a deep postseason.

Good points all the way around. Duffy, Volquez, Kennedy and Ventura might be enough of Volquez bounces back and Duffy continues to be strong (I'd actually tick his current performance level up at least a notch), even if Kennedy continues to struggle on the road and Ventura remains enigmatic.

But that 5 spot is an issue.

I'm not in favor of giving up a ton for a rental and would be more in favor of a minor piece in a case like that (such as CC Sabathia). But if it's someone like Pomeranz who has several years of control remaining, I'm willing to consider trading from minor league positions of depth to improve the rotation.

With Moustakas, Cuthbert, and Dozier, KC may have enough depth there to make a move. Same with the OF, where Orlando, Eibner, Fuentes and Dyson lurk in reserve roles and make it easier to consider trading a Jorge Bonifacio.

Re: Cain... I have a buddy who has been bitching for two weeks about Cain dogging it to first.

I wish he had been bitching about it again last night... Tough injury to overcome.



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Definitely a tough injury to overcome - hoping for the best though - BTW what WOULD best-case be - like a month?
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He always looks like he is an eyelash away from a leg injury for some reason. That is why I dont see him back once he hits the market.
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