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Old 02-12-2007, 08:03 PM  
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Old 02-13-2007, 02:59 PM   #241
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I think you're overestimated the damage of losing Marty. The damage was done when Cameron and Phillips left. Marty with those guys equaled a great coaching staff. Marty without those guys -- see Washington under Marty.
No way - Marty has been at least somewhat successful everywhere he's ever been. There is no reason to think he wouldn't have had Washington better off than it was when he got there.
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:00 PM   #242
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He had one season in Washington. You couldn't tell anything from that.
His choice of coordinators doomed him.
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:02 PM   #243
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His choice of coordinators doomed him.
Either that, or Daniel Snyder being a 'tard.
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:10 PM   #244
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Say what you will about his postseason Hindenburgs, but Marty can build a strong team, regardless of his staff. I'm glad he's not in San Diego any more.

Hopefully they'll hire Pete "Can't win in the NFL" Carroll.
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:13 PM   #245
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Without reading the whole thread, does anyone else wonder if A.J. Smith specifically kept Marty employed until all of the other coaching jobs were filled?
As I posted a few spots earlier, the riff between Marty and Smith didn't become intolerable until they had to start finding replacements for the coaches that had left. Mainly, it was the decision by Marty to bring in his brother Kurt for the defensive coordinator spot that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

However, after reading the Chargers board, many are starting to think that Marty intentionally did that to put Spanos on the spot. Marty wasn't given a contract extension like he wanted and Marty and AJ Smith haven't been on speaking terms for quite sometime. It might of just been a case of Marty knowing that by bringing his brother into the picture he would force the owner to choose between himself and Smith, which is what happened.
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:15 PM   #246
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Marty actually proposed bringing Kurt on as defensive coordinator? Wow. Now I wish that Marty had been able to win and stay on.
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:26 PM   #247
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Yep apparently that triggered the release was his expression of interest toward Kurt.
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:56 PM   #248
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Martyocre is gone, the Chargers may be a legitimate playoff threat next year.
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Old 02-13-2007, 04:02 PM   #249
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As I posted a few spots earlier, the riff between Marty and Smith didn't become intolerable until they had to start finding replacements for the coaches that had left. Mainly, it was the decision by Marty to bring in his brother Kurt for the defensive coordinator spot that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

However, after reading the Chargers board, many are starting to think that Marty intentionally did that to put Spanos on the spot. Marty wasn't given a contract extension like he wanted and Marty and AJ Smith haven't been on speaking terms for quite sometime. It might of just been a case of Marty knowing that by bringing his brother into the picture he would force the owner to choose between himself and Smith, which is what happened.
Sounds plausible to me.

I feel sorry for Marty he is a great coach but he just can't seem to win playoff games.
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Old 02-13-2007, 05:18 PM   #250
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Yep apparently that triggered the release was his expression of interest toward Kurt.
Can we get some cites on this?
Sportscenter this morning expressly stated "disagreement about the elevation of certain coaches on staff to vacated coordinator positions."
Not saying it isn't true, but it's not consistent with ESPN reporting this AM.
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Old 02-13-2007, 05:21 PM   #251
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Can we get some cites on this?
Sportscenter this morning expressly stated "disagreement about the elevation of certain coaches on staff to vacated coordinator positions."
Not saying it isn't true, but it's not consistent with ESPN reporting this AM.

On Cold Pizza today, I forget who the reporter was, but he said that Marty wanted to bring in Kurt and the management didn't want to. Marty then pointed out that he had a clause in his contract allowing him to hire whatever staff he wants. In response, the Chargers fired him. It was the last straw.
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Marty wasn't fired. His employment was not extended since he refused the payment of $4 Million for one year of service.
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Marty wasn't fired. His employment was not extended since he refused the payment of $4 Million for one year of service.
Marty definitely was fired.
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Old 02-13-2007, 07:16 PM   #254
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If they hire someone like Cowher I agree.
You may be on to something. You must remember those rumors from when Cower stepped aside.

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Cowher just resigned from one of the cornerstone franchises of the NFL. SD will call and he will laugh.
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