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Old 03-27-2008, 06:51 PM  
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Chiefs Meet With Otah

Chiefs | Team meets with Otah
Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:40:13 -0700

Brad Biggs, of the Chicago Sun-Times, reports the Kansas City Chiefs met with University of Pittsburgh OT Jeff Otah Monday, March 24.

I think the chiefs hope they can grab him in the second, wich is considerable since we pick early in most rounds.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:35 PM   #241
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So it should just be assumed that we can continue building our offensive line with low round draft picks? Then why haven't guys like Brett Williams, Kevin Sampson, Tre' Stallings, Will Svitek, Jordan Black, etc. worked out?

And we had more invested in that line than just a 3rd round pick and an undrafted FA. Roaf was a 1st round pick by New Orleans that ended up costing us a 3rd round pick. And ever since we lost 1st round pick Tait right tackle has been a revolving door.
Excellent post.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:35 PM   #242
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Do you consider Jake Long at 5, Clady at (say) 10 or Otah at (say) 17 reaches?
I know this was directed at Brock, but here's my thoughts.

Long is not a reach at 5, but isn't going to be there.

Clady and Otah are both reaches at those positions IMO, because they aren't even the 2nd and 3rd best OT's in the draft.

I think Chris Williams should/could go around 12, Clady around 15 and Otah somewhere after 20.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:36 PM   #243
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I personally think Chris Williams has a better chance of succeeding as a LT in the league than Long does because speed rushers don't give him problems.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:38 PM   #244
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Excellent post.
Well, ****.

If we're basing our draft on history, the I guess we're REALLY limited as to who we can pick.

I mean, who's the last QB, OT, C, DT, MLB, or CB we've drafted that has "worked out?"

AVOID THEM ALL. CARL ****ED UP BACK IN (insert year here)......
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No team, absolutely NO team takes BPA in rounds 1-7. It just doesn't happen. At some point you have to reach for a need. Should we reach in the 1st round? No. But after that if you have a guy ranked slightly lower but you feel he can be a good player and you believe he won't be there in the next round by all means the team should use a draft pick on that player then.
Siavii in the 2nd = reach
Getting a player in the position of need a couple of places earlier in a projected round = Good drafting. Not a reach.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:42 PM   #246
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Siavii in the 2nd = reach
Getting a player in the position of need a couple of places earlier in a projected round = Good drafting. Not a reach.
In the top ten that makes it a reach, like I said this isn't the 5th round a couple spots is a really big deal in the top 10, even more so in the top 5.
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Siavii in the 2nd = reach
Getting a player in the position of need a couple of places earlier in a projected round = Good drafting. Not a reach.


Go look at the past drafts of the Colts, Patriots and Chargers and tell me how they reached based on need.

I'll warn you, it's gonna take a while.

BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:43 PM   #248
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Go look at the past drafts of the Colts, Patriots and Chargers and tell me how they reached based on need.

I'll warn you, it's gonna take a while.

BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
Like when everyone was screaming that the Colts needed defense and they drafted, Dallas Clark, what a bunch of morons huh?

That Bill Polian he has no idea what he's doing by taking the best players, Frankie would hate him as GM despite him know what he's doing.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:45 PM   #249
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Like when everyone was screaming that the Colts needed defense and they drafted, Dallas Clark, what a bunch of morons huh?

That Bill Polian he has no idea what he's doing by taking the best players, Frankie would hate him as GM despite him know what he's doing.
Yep, or Anthony Gonzalez last year.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:48 PM   #250
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Yep, or Anthony Gonzalez last year.
Some people here have been following this team way to long and have lost touch with how the guys who know what they are doing do things...

If you want to see contending teams built primarily through the draft...Indy and SD, you want to strive to be like them, how many times have they reached on players because of need?

Makes me laugh to see people around here talk shit on AJ Smith or the Chargers he's done an awesome job and built a hell of a team we should want to strive to be like them.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:52 PM   #251
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Some people here have been following this team way to long and have lost touch with how the guys who know what they are doing do things...

If you want to see contending teams built primarily through the draft...Indy and SD, you want to strive to be like them, how many times have they reached on players because of need?

Makes me laugh to see people around here talk shit on AJ Smith or the Chargers he's done an awesome job and built a hell of a team we should want to strive to be like them.
I'm generally in agreement with you on this, and really like what AJ Smith has done, including the campaign to can Marty.

However, until they actually advance to the SB, they are nothing more than the 90s Chiefs as it relates to what has been accomplished.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:53 PM   #252
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I'm generally in agreement with you on this, and really like what AJ Smith has done, including the campaign to can Marty.

However, until they actually advance to the SB, they are nothing more than the 90s Chiefs as it relates to what has been accomplished.
Perhaps, but in the arena of the draft, they kick a bunch of other teams asses.
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Perhaps, but in the arena of the draft, they kick a bunch of other teams asses.
I agree.

I'm just saying using them in this debate isn't really a good idea.

Th question from the OT or bust crowd will inevitably be, what have they done?

In the end, nothing more than the 90s Chiefs is the answer.
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I agree.

I'm just saying using them in this debate isn't really a good idea.

Th question from the OT or bust crowd will inevitably be, what have they done?

In the end, nothing more than the 90s Chiefs is the answer.
Look how long they are setup to be good, if the Chiefs don't do this properly they'll be losing to the Chargers year in and year out for a long time.
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Some people here have been following this team way to long and have lost touch with how the guys who know what they are doing do things...

If you want to see contending teams built primarily through the draft...Indy and SD, you want to strive to be like them, how many times have they reached on players because of need?

Makes me laugh to see people around here talk shit on AJ Smith or the Chargers he's done an awesome job and built a hell of a team we should want to strive to be like them.
18/22 starters for the Chargers were drafted by the Chargers.

And most of them are STARS.
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