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Sanchez 66 35.11%
Stafford 85 45.21%
Neither. Give me a DE. 29 15.43%
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Old 01-14-2009, 05:58 PM  
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Stafford or Sanchez?
Which would you rather have?
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Old 01-15-2009, 12:50 PM   #241
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i want no part of trading our 1st round draft pick for Cassel
Neither do I. Maybe he can trade LJ and a 3rd or lower. I really think Pats are way out of line asking for a high 1st for Cassell.
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Old 01-15-2009, 12:51 PM   #242
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Neither do I. Maybe he can trade LJ and a 3rd or lower. I really think Pats are way out of line asking for a high 1st for Cassell.
How much value does LJ really carry now though?
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Old 01-15-2009, 12:51 PM   #243
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Old 01-15-2009, 12:55 PM   #244
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Interesting... some background on Davis please?


Ball State QB Nate Davis to enter NFL draft early
By Associated Press | Tuesday, January 13, 2009 |

INDIANAPOLIS — Ball State coach Stan Parrish wasn’t surprised that quarterback Nate Davis decided to give up his senior season to enter the NFL draft.

"I always knew it was a possibility, a strong possibility when you have a player like him in today’s football climate," Parrish told the Associated Press in a telephone interview. "We talked about this a year ago."

Parrish, the former Ball State offensive coordinator who recently moved up to replace Brady Hoke as head coach, made the announcement Tuesday.

Davis led Ball State to a 12-0 start this past season, during which the Cardinals were ranked as high as 12th. The Cardinals lost to Buffalo in the Mid-American Conference championship game, then to Tulsa in the GMAC Bowl.

"I know what I’m about to do won’t be easy," Davis said in a statement. "But it’s what my heart and head want to do at this time. It’s the right thing for me and my family at this time."

The junior threw for 26 touchdowns and only eight interceptions this season and his quarterback rating was 13th in the nation.

The previous season, he passed for school records of 3,667 yards and 30 touchdowns. He leaves as the school’s leader in touchdown passes (74), yards passing (9,233), attempts (1,124) and completions (678).

Parrish said Davis, a 6-foot-2, 217-pound right-hander, has the tools to excel in the NFL.

"He can make every throw," Parrish said. "He can make the long throws, the touch throws. He’s got a lot of God-given talent you really don’t coach."

Davis stood out in Parrish’s mind as a leader.

"I don’t think he ever missed a day of practice, hurt or not hurt," Parrish said. "He has a passion for the game that I thought spilled over to the other players."

Davis said his one regret was that he never won a conference title. But Parrish said Davis and Dante Love, the receiver who led the nation in yards per game before suffering a career-ending spinal injury this season, raised expectations for future Ball State teams.

"Nate and Dante, in particular, took this program to new heights," Parrish said. "That bar is very, very high. And wouldn’t you rather the bar be high than low?"

Parrish said he’ll miss Davis.

"He’s like a son to me," Parrish said. "Like all fathers, you want your son to go out and do great in the world. I think he will."
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Old 01-15-2009, 12:58 PM   #245
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How much value does LJ really carry now though?
Carl made Leon hard to trade. But if he really wants out and Pioli wants him out maybe they can get together and tear up the old contract and do a new one to make him more tradable. Maybe some team will still have some love for him.
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Old 01-15-2009, 01:11 PM   #246
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What makes you sold on Stafford being a #3 overall pick QB?



We do need a replacement for JA. But I don't see anybody worth the third pick either. That includes Orakpo.

This sure looks like a draft year to trade down in. Not far mind you, just enough to be able to get Sanchez or Maualoga at value. I hope Pioli will find a suitable trade partner for that.
Si. Color me unimpressed with that guy.

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1. Trade down
2. Sanchez
3. Stafford

IMO.

BTW,

I think Pioli will look hard into the possibility of aquiring Cassel. The Patriots are being ridiculous about his value now, but that can change. If he pulls that off I bet he'll try to get Harrell or Freeman in later rounds to develop.
And what a premature ejaculation-fest of gargantuan "Meh" THAT would be.

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i want no part of trading our 1st round draft pick for Cassel
I want no part of Matt Cassel.
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:52 PM   #247
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Carl made Leon hard to trade. But if he really wants out and Pioli wants him out maybe they can get together and tear up the old contract and do a new one to make him more tradable. Maybe some team will still have some love for him.
Possible, but feels like a big stretch doesnt it?
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:56 PM   #248
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I'm going to be nervous as **** on draft day. I will be devestated if they are picked 1 and 2 and are off the board.
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:57 PM   #249
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Carl made Leon hard to trade. But if he really wants out and Pioli wants him out maybe they can get together and tear up the old contract and do a new one to make him more tradable. Maybe some team will still have some love for him.
5th rd pick at most. And that's not even factoring in the money.
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:59 PM   #250
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I'm going to be nervous as **** on draft day. I will be devestated if they are picked 1 and 2 and are off the board.
I think you've forgotten who we just hired. If The Man wants Matt or Mark, then Matt or Mark he will have.

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"GM's will more often than not be happy to trade that first-round, first pick. Why? If that pick is a bust it's on their heads, and most of them are not that brave".

We will get who ever the hell Scott Pioli wants.

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I will say this, as someone who holds no love for Matt Stafford (gee, you think):

If Pioli has a choice between the two and chooses Stafford, I will shut the hell up about the flaws that appear glaring to me and get 100 percent behind him.

Weird. Nice to have a GM you actually trust...
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I will say this, as someone who holds no love for Matt Stafford (gee, you think):

If Pioli has a choice between the two and chooses Stafford, I will shut the hell up about the flaws that appear glaring to me and get 100 percent behind him.

Weird. Nice to have a GM you actually trust...
aint it though?
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Pioli can do whatever he wants & I'll support it.
I'm sure there will be times I wonder WTF, but I have faith in Pioli.
I feel the same way about Dayton Moore too.
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Frankie you shouldn't be allowed to post in QB threads all you talk about is how you don't want em, you did it last year and now you're doing it again...

If Frankie was our GM we'd never have a QB ever.

The fear of the QB position it's back out just like it was last year, last year it was Croyle now it's Thigpen, the same things said about Ryan are being said about these guys...never fails.
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