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Old 02-17-2009, 05:29 PM  
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Official KCChiefs.com announcement: New coaches

(Must not ... make ... shanahan ... joke ...) Ah, what the hell -- I can't resist. THE DEALS ARE DONE!!

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Kansas City Chiefs Announce Coaching Staff Moves
Feb 17, 2009, 5:17:14 PM

The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Tuesday that the club has made several additions to head coach Todd Haley’s coaching staff. The following coaches have been retained by the Chiefs: Bob Bicknell, Joe D’Alessandris, Chan Gailey, Tim Krumrie, Brent Salazar and Cedric Smith. The following assistant coaches are joining the Chiefs staff:

Joel Collier – Collier owns 17 seasons of experience coaching in the professional ranks. He most recently enjoyed a three-year stint with New England (2005-07). Prior to joining the Patriots, he spent 11 seasons with Miami (’94-04). Collier served his first tour of duty with New England from ‘91-93, spending time on the coaching staff and as a pro scout. He began his NFL career as an offensive assistant with Tampa Bay (’90) after serving as a graduate assistant at Syracuse (’88-89).

Gary Gibbs – A 29-year coaching veteran, Gibbs most recently served a three-year stint as defensive coordinator with New Orleans (2006-08). He entered the NFL ranks as linebackers coach with Dallas (2002-05). Gibbs broke into the coaching profession at his alma mater, the University of Oklahoma, as a graduate assistant in ‘75 and was eventually promoted to linebackers coach (’78-80), defensive coordinator (’81-88) and head coach (’89-94) He also served as defensive coordinator at Georgia (2000) and LSU (2001).

Steve Hoffman – Hoffman owns 19 years of NFL coaching experience. He most recently spent a two-year tour with Miami as kicking coach (2008) and assistant special teams coach (2007). He served as assistant special teams coach with the Atlanta (2006) after a 16-year association with Dallas (’89-04), where he served as kicking coach (’89-98) and kicking/defensive quality control coach (’99-04). He began his coaching career at the University of Miami (’85-87).

Bill Muir – Muir is a veteran of 31 NFL seasons and owns a total of 44 seasons of coaching experience. He most recently served as the offensive coordinator/offensive line coach for Tampa Bay (2002-08). He has also enjoyed NFL coaching stops with the N.Y. Jets (’95-01), Philadelphia (’92-94), Indianapolis (’89-91), Detroit (’85-88) and New England (’82-84). He began his NFL career in the player personnel department with Tampa Bay (’78-81). He coached collegiately at SMU (’76-77), Idaho State (’72-73), Rhode Island (’70-71), Delaware Valley (’66-67) and Susquehanna (’65). The Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania native also coached professionally for Houston/Shreveport (’74-75) of the World Football League.

Clancy Pendergast – Pendergast owns 14 seasons of experience in the NFL coaching ranks. He spent the past five campaigns as a defensive coordinator with Arizona (2004-08). Prior to guiding the Cardinals defensive unit, Pendergast spent one season with Cleveland (2003) after enjoying a seven-year tenure with Dallas (’96-02). He began his NFL coaching career with Houston (’95). He began his coaching career in the collegiate ranks as a graduate assistant with Mississippi State (’91) and enjoyed stops at Southern California (’92), Oklahoma (’93-94) and Alabama-Birmingham (’95). Pendergast graduated from the University of Arizona in ‘90.

Pat Perles – Perles owns 21 years of coaching experience, including two years in the NFL. He spent the previous six seasons at North Dakota State (2003-08), including the final four campaigns as the offensive coordinator. Perles previously served as the offensive line coach at his alma mater of Michigan State (2000-02). He spent six seasons in the Canadian Football League with Hamilton (’98-99), Winnipeg (’97) and Saskatchewan (’94-96). He began his NFL coaching career with the L.A. Rams (’92-93) after working as the defensive line coach for three years with Toledo (’89-91).

Dedric Ward – Ward spent the past two seasons as a member of Arizona Cardinals offensive coaching staff along with current Chiefs head coach Todd Haley. In 2007, Ward served as a quality control coach, working intensely with the Cardinals wide receivers. In 2008, the Cedar Rapids, Iowa native entered his second season as a quality control coach, working closely with the club’s running backs. Ward began his coaching career as wide receivers coach at Missouri State University in 2006.

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Old 02-17-2009, 07:38 PM   #241
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Now, the chiefs:

Sacks:

2004: 40
2005: 29
2006: 32
2007: 37
2008: 10


YPC (AGAINST):

2004: 4.6
2005: 4.1
2006: 4.2
2007: 4.3
2008: 5.0

So, again, the 'problem' doesn't match up with the arrival of Krumrie. Kansas City has some problems on the line. Krumrie might not be the answer, but he's not the problem.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:39 PM   #242
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So basically your argument is that Krumrie doesn't suck but he's not any good either?

Or that it's all players and coaches have no effect?
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:41 PM   #243
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They've been an offensive team for years. Or at least watching them has offended me greatly.


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Old 02-17-2009, 07:42 PM   #244
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So basically your argument is that Krumrie doesn't suck but he's not any good either?

Or that it's all players and coaches have no effect?
Neither. When you look at the data, he's had minimal impact, either positively or negatively. That might serve as a flag or, more likely, it might serve to show just what a lot of shit he's been handed at both stops. When players suck irregardless of Krumrie at two separate spots, you have to wonder about the players.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:43 PM   #245
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I'm guessing Pendergast.
God I hope not... the only way I can validate it is to say that their offense scored too quickly and turned the ball over constantly.... but that doesn't make me feel good.

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dockett-49 tackles-4 sacks
wilson-75 2 ints 2 ff
now 'll give you dansby
berry-22tackles-5 sacks
DRC is great too.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:44 PM   #246
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:45 PM   #247
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Oh, and I know how Krumrie kept his job. He outyelled Haley in their meeting. It's the only way.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:46 PM   #248
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Krumrie must give great head. That's all I can think of.

My happy-happy thoughts just took a serious hit.

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Old 02-17-2009, 07:46 PM   #249
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Getting Crenell would make a lot of sense why titles aren't settled.

Remember Clark said 90% of the staff would be in place by Friday.
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God I hope not... the only way I can validate it is to say that their offense scored too quickly and turned the ball over constantly.... but that doesn't make me feel good.



DRC is great too.
i would have LOVED for us to draft DRC. people lauged at me i wanted to draft him so bad.
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Don't know if anyone's posted this...but this is from Bill Williamson's blog on ESPN.com:
It is being speculated that either Gibbs, fired last month as New Orleans' defensive coordinator, will be the defensive coordinator. Pendergast, just fired as Arizona defensive coordinator, is going to be a defensive assistant. There is also talk around the league that Gibbs may be the linebackers coach of Pioli can get former Cleveland head coach and former New England defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel to be the coordinator. Until official titles are announced, speculation will continue.

It is also being speculated that Gailey, who already was under contract for this season, is being retained to be the offensive coordinator. He was Herm Edwards' coordinator last season. Haley is expected to call the plays so except the Chiefs' offense to take on the personality more of Haley than Gailey. Haley was known for a vertical game when he was the offensive coordinator of the explosive Arizona Cardinals.

The belief is that Muir will coach the offensive line and that Bicknell will coach the tight ends.
Yes, it is murky but that is clearly how the Chiefs prefer to do business these days.

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In other words, perhaps Gibbs and Pendergast are backup plans if they can't land Romeo. http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/images/smilies/shrug.gif
That would make sense in terms of why their titles were not designated...
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:47 PM   #252
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Welcome to coaches' camp, fellers. This is exactly what needs to be done, at this point. This staff is a kickass staff, and the respective responsibilities will be rewarded accordingly. Seems like two of this group may be voted off the island.

That said, which one of them is Johnny Fairplay?
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:48 PM   #253
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Something tells me this is a lame duck coaching staff. It was late in the game, and Haley and Pioli no doubt felt pressured to find a suitable coaching staff.

Haley can no doubt find better coaches, but which ones were available that were any good at all?

I think this will be just kind of a "see what happens" season with most of these coaches. If any of them don't work out (likely we'll be seeing several) there's no doubt they will be removed next season.
I'm hoping this is the case. I'm irritated that Krumrie is still on this staff.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:49 PM   #254
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This.

That's a SICK defensive core.
core? wilson has been there how long? Berrtrand Berry used to suck in Denver IIRC..

how long did it take to get those players together?

and they were 15 seconds from winning the SB, i think it's fair to say they got alot out of them
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i would have LOVED for us to draft DRC. people lauged at me i wanted to draft him so bad.
He's a waste in the Cover 2. But I agree, he's a complete stud. Especially now when we're not going to be doing the cover 2... (I'm guessing)
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