Chiefs Get of Mark Castle's back! - Page 17

**pr_capone** · 11-10-2009, 01:08 AM

First and foremost... I am no Cassel apologist but I am tired of reading posts just bashing Matt left and right.

Here are the numbers. And before I get started... **** all this "garbage time" bullshit. EVERY QB in the league has garbage time stats so let's not get too wrapped up in that. It's not like teams have replaced all their starters with 2nd and 3rd stringers at the end of games on us.

This is a statistical comparison of current QB's 2nd season as full time starters. Cassel, Ryan, & Flacco's stats are projected numbers of 16 games played in a season.

Pay special attention to the TD, INT, and Sack numbers.

Completions
Cassel - 286
Ryan - 312
Flacco - 366
Brady - 373
McNabb - 285
Rivers - 277

Attempts
Cassel - 514
Ryan - 514
Flacco - 564
Brady - 601
McNabb - 493
Rivers - 460

Completion Percentage
Cassel - 55.6
Ryan - 60.9
Flacco - 64.9
Brady - 62.1
McNabb - 57.8
Rivers - 60.2

Yards
Cassel - 2871
Ryan - 3568
Flacco - 4088
Brady - 3764
McNabb - 3233
Rivers - 3152

TDs
Cassel - 23
Ryan - 26
Flacco - 24
Brady - 23
McNabb - 25
Rivers - 21

INTs
Cassel - 11
Ryan - 20
Flacco - 14
Brady - 14
McNabb - 12
Rivers - 15

Sacks
Cassel - 62
Ryan - 24
Flacco - 32
Brady - 31
McNabb - 39
Rivers - 22

What I get out of the stats.

While Cassel could certainly stand to improve his completion percentage and total yardage, he is doing a damn fine job of producing in this ****tarded offense. His completion and total yardage stats have been killed due to the fact that the man has zero time to set up and find an open receiver as shown by the sack numbers. I would love to know the number of times each QB was hurried and forced to run but if the sack numbers are any indication, Cassel would nearly double the amount of any of the QB's listed in this comparison. His mobility has likely saved him from another dozen or so sacks at the halfway mark.

People dog Cassel for being unable to throw the deep ball. Hopefully that argument was squelched a bit after the long pass to Chambers today whom he hit in stride for a TD. It is amazing what a competent QB can do when he has a bit of time and a receiver with reliable hands & a touch of speed.

Lastly, and probably of most importance for a team like the Chiefs who are in transition on both sides of the ball, Cassel takes care of the damn ball while still throwing TD's. Cassel is on pace to throw fewer interceptions than any of the QB's listed in the comparison despite his o-line's inability to keep him on his feet. In fact, he has thrown interceptions in only 2 of his 7 games played so far this season. Oh yeah... and though he has been sacked more than any of the QB's listed he has yet to lose a fumble.

I don't know what more you want from the guy.

It's not his fault 3/5 of his offensive line would not start on ANY other team in the NFL.

Its not his fault that his coach is calling a limp dick game offensively.

Its not his fault that his featured RB averaged a whopping 2.7 yards per carry with 0 TDs prior to his suspension and release.

Its not his fault his receivers can't get open.

Its not his fault he is having to pick himself up off the ground on half the passing plays.

I'm not claiming that this guy will be the next Manning, Brees, or Brady. I'm saying this guy COULD be a solid QB for seasons to come if he only had some protection.

I like to bitch about the team as much as the next feller but let's bitch about the players that deserved to be bitched about.

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soundmind · 11-11-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

can you even ****ing READ who you are ****ing quoting?

2 bizzy hatn patna!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-11-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

can you even ****ing READ who you are ****ing quoting?

At this point; you're both interchangeable.

**SAUTO** · 11-11-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

At this point; you're both interchangeable.

Really? wow. why dont you go find another post from one of the fab 5 to run around saying for a week.
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Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-11-2009, 08:16 PM

And get off Sunk Vessel's back.

SS Cassel:

milkman · 11-11-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Really? wow. why dont you go find another post from one of the fab 5 to run around saying for a week.
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The gang of 14 shrunk?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-11-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The gang of 14 shrunk?

**Tribal Warfare** · 11-11-2009, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The gang of 14 shrunk?

I call them the flavor of the month club

Brock · 11-11-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

I call them the flavor of the month club

That's stupid. He's talking about people who hate Cassel, and you're talking about people who like him.

**Tribal Warfare** · 11-11-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

That's stupid. He's talking about people who hate Cassel, and you're talking about people who like him.

really? My mistake then thanks for the interjection

soundmind · 11-11-2009, 09:39 PM

If there's a choice of flavors, I vote for purple.

**Rausch** · 11-11-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Oh brother, this is getting ****ing old about Bowe. His drops are the norm among #1 WR's. They are about the same as Andre Johnson, who everybody would love to have. Bowe comes up with the play when we need him to, end of story.

Comparing Bowe to Andre Johnson might be the least thought out post of the week.

****ING STUPID...

ChiefsCountry · 11-11-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Comparing Bowe to Andre Johnson might be the least thought out post of the week.

****ING STUPID...

He is closer to Andre Johnson than ****ing Willie Practice Squad Davis.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-11-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by soundmind

If there's a choice of flavors, I vote for purple.

Negatory. We only drink our free 32oz. Malt Liquor with a General Piolio's Fried Chicken Nappy Meal.

**Rausch** · 11-11-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

He is closer to Andre Johnson than ****ing Willie Practice Squad Davis.

Really?

How many 1st half catches does Bowe have?

Johnson?

Drops?

Targets (throws to)?

And even after all that there's the fact Johnson is just far more talented...

ChiefsCountry · 11-11-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Really?

How many 1st half catches does Bowe have?

Johnson?

Drops?

Targets (throws to)?

And even after all that there's the fact Johnson is just far more talented...

Bowe
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/player...playerId=10467

Johnson
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/player...?playerId=4461

Here is the dropped passes - Bowe has 5, Johnson has 4
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/l...rank=232&year=

Balls targeted - Johnson 93, Bowe 53
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/l...e=AFC&rank=052

I'm not debating Andre Johnson's talent, he is arguablly the best receiver in the NFL. I'm tired of hearing how Bowe isn't. He is a damn fine WR our best since Otis Taylor.

11-10-2009, 01:08 AM
pr_capone THREEPEAT!!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NWMO Casino cash: $9948214	Get of Mark Castle's back! First and foremost... I am no Cassel apologist but I am tired of reading posts just bashing Matt left and right. Here are the numbers. And before I get started... ** all this "garbage time" bullshit. EVERY QB in the league has garbage time stats so let's not get too wrapped up in that. It's not like teams have replaced all their starters with 2nd and 3rd stringers at the end of games on us. This is a statistical comparison of current QB's 2nd season as full time starters. Cassel, Ryan, & Flacco's stats are projected numbers of 16 games played in a season. Pay special attention to the TD, INT, and Sack numbers. Completions Cassel - 286 Ryan - 312 Flacco - 366 Brady - 373 McNabb - 285 Rivers - 277 Attempts Cassel - 514 Ryan - 514 Flacco - 564 Brady - 601 McNabb - 493 Rivers - 460 Completion Percentage Cassel - 55.6 Ryan - 60.9 Flacco - 64.9 Brady - 62.1 McNabb - 57.8 Rivers - 60.2 Yards Cassel - 2871 Ryan - 3568 Flacco - 4088 Brady - 3764 McNabb - 3233 Rivers - 3152 TDs Cassel - 23 Ryan - 26 Flacco - 24 Brady - 23 McNabb - 25 Rivers - 21 INTs Cassel - 11 Ryan - 20 Flacco - 14 Brady - 14 McNabb - 12 Rivers - 15 Sacks Cassel - 62 Ryan - 24 Flacco - 32 Brady - 31 McNabb - 39 Rivers - 22 What I get out of the stats. While Cassel could certainly stand to improve his completion percentage and total yardage, he is doing a damn fine job of producing in this **tarded offense. His completion and total yardage stats have been killed due to the fact that the man has zero time to set up and find an open receiver as shown by the sack numbers. I would love to know the number of times each QB was hurried and forced to run but if the sack numbers are any indication, Cassel would nearly double the amount of any of the QB's listed in this comparison. His mobility has likely saved him from another dozen or so sacks at the halfway mark. People dog Cassel for being unable to throw the deep ball. Hopefully that argument was squelched a bit after the long pass to Chambers today whom he hit in stride for a TD. It is amazing what a competent QB can do when he has a bit of time and a receiver with reliable hands & a touch of speed. Lastly, and probably of most importance for a team like the Chiefs who are in transition on both sides of the ball, Cassel takes care of the damn ball while still throwing TD's. Cassel is on pace to throw fewer interceptions than any of the QB's listed in the comparison despite his o-line's inability to keep him on his feet. In fact, he has thrown interceptions in only 2 of his 7 games played so far this season. Oh yeah... and though he has been sacked more than any of the QB's listed he has yet to lose a fumble. I don't know what more you want from the guy. It's not his fault 3/5 of his offensive line would not start on ANY other team in the NFL. Its not his fault that his coach is calling a limp dick game offensively. Its not his fault that his featured RB averaged a whopping 2.7 yards per carry with 0 TDs prior to his suspension and release. Its not his fault his receivers can't get open. Its not his fault he is having to pick himself up off the ground on half the passing plays. I'm not claiming that this guy will be the next Manning, Brees, or Brady. I'm saying this guy COULD be a solid QB for seasons to come if he only had some protection. I like to bitch about the team as much as the next feller but let's bitch about the players that deserved to be bitched about. [/rant]
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