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Old 03-16-2010, 10:17 AM  
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Peter King: The Chiefs will never take a safety that high
I hope that ****nut is wrong but I am sure I will be disappointed if Berry is there and they pass unless they decide to draft Clausen.

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I noticed last night SI's Peter King was tweeting up a storm at his Twitter account about all things football for a few hours. One very interesting observation came out of him that I think would surprise a lot of us here.
Someone suggested the Chiefs trade with the Dolphins, who are in need of a playmaking safety. King, who agreed with a Miami/Kansas City trade scenario, had this to say:
"And KC would never take [safety] that high."
Now, King's one of the best in the business when it comes to sports reporting, especially the NFL and that sounds like a pretty definitive statement.

With that said, I see his logic. Scott Pioli has always struck me as a guy who's more likely to build from the inside out meaning the focus is on the offensive and defensive lines.

Just something to keep in mind as we inch toward April.
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:01 PM   #241
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That's exactly what Vermeil said, dumb ****. Exactly.

"He was drafted to be a deep snapper,'' Cunningham said. "There are a lot of people taking credit for drafting Jared Allen.''

"Our head coach was Dick Vermeil, and he asked me to take a look at him (on film before the draft),'' Cunningham said. "Dick asked me if he could play, and I said, 'No doubt.' Dick said, 'Good, because I'm going to draft him as the deep snapper. I don't want to use that roster spot on game day and I'm going to get rid of the deep snapper and get Jared Allen.' "

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I'm sure the 20 sacks Allen racked up in his first two seasons had NOTHING to do with why Jared wasn't long-snapping, and why Gammon stuck around.

Hell, why doesn't Minnesota let him long-snap? They could save a roster spot.

something doesnt add up here. hamas' quote says they were going to get rid of the snapper, you say that the 20 sacks in 2 years made them not do it. well IMO if they were going to get rid of gammon why didnt they just do it right off the bat?
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:01 PM   #242
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I'm sure the 20 sacks Allen racked up in his first two seasons had NOTHING to do with why Jared wasn't long-snapping, and why Gammon stuck around.

Hell, why doesn't Minnesota let him long-snap? They could save a roster spot.
Yeah, and Im sure that him being the NCAA all time sack leader had no impact on him being drafted in the fourth round either.

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Old 03-16-2010, 05:05 PM   #243
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Yeah, and Im sure that him being the NCAA all time sack leader had no impact on him being drafted in the fourth round either.

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No, that would be the fact that he played for Idaho ****ing State and had numerous alcohol related incidents in college.

But please, continue to call Gunther a liar while having no evidence whatsoever to prove his claims false.
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:13 PM   #244
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No, that would be the fact that he played for Idaho ****ing State and had numerous alcohol related incidents in college.

But please, continue to call Gunther a liar while having no evidence whatsoever to prove his claims false.
i know that you cant see this but others can so....

this post makes NO sense. he said that being the ncaa leading sacker was the reason that he went in the fourth round. not because he would be a long snapper. then YOU say that he fell because he played for idaho state and had alcohol incidents.


SOOOOOOO do you or ANYONE else think that the chiefs or any other team would spend a fourth or earlier on an long snapper?
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:15 PM   #245
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No, that would be the fact that he played for Idaho ****ing State and had numerous alcohol related incidents in college.

But please, continue to call Gunther a liar while having no evidence whatsoever to prove his claims false.
well, Gun claimed that Dick was gonna take him and release Gammon...never happened so that would be strike one

"Dick asked Gun if Allen could play" so by this you think he had Gun watching special teams film or defensive film? Being he is a defensive coach, I would think he wouldn't be asking him to evaluate how well he could long snap. Strike two

care to strike out?

The thought that we took Jared Allen to mainly be the longsnapper is ****ing ridiculous.

Did he have additional value -in addition to being a good pass rush prospect- in being able to long snap? SURE was that the main reason he was drafted in the fourth round? No, that would be beyond CP foolishness)
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:37 PM   #246
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something doesnt add up here. hamas' quote says they were going to get rid of the snapper, you say that the 20 sacks in 2 years made them not do it. well IMO if they were going to get rid of gammon why didnt they just do it right off the bat?
Because they saw him whip ass in rookie camp, and training camp and Gunther and Karmelowicz said they were going to break his finger so he couldn't long snap--he was too valuable.

Classic case of ass over teakettle drafting.
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That's exactly what Vermeil said, dumb ****. Exactly.

"He was drafted to be a deep snapper,'' Cunningham said. "There are a lot of people taking credit for drafting Jared Allen.''

"Our head coach was Dick Vermeil, and he asked me to take a look at him (on film before the draft),'' Cunningham said. "Dick asked me if he could play, and I said, 'No doubt.' Dick said, 'Good, because I'm going to draft him as the deep snapper. I don't want to use that roster spot on game day and I'm going to get rid of the deep snapper and get Jared Allen.' "

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I'm sure they used a 4th round pick on a deep snapper...

I think the context of that quote is...

"He can play? Well maybe...but either way at the very least we won't have to waste a roster spot on a deep snapper if he's a bust..."

And that's precisely what they did...

Wasn't Gammon on the roster that year?
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nobody wastes a 4th on a long snapper...

Idiots.
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nobody wastes a 4th on a long snapper...

Idiots.
You really don't deal well with facts and reality, do you?
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I'm sure NO ONE expected Allen to be what he is...

But to think he was drafted in the 4th to be a deep snapping specialist is the dumbest thing I've ever read on this site.
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Idiots.
You strongly underestimate the the fail of the brain trusts of the draft during that period of time
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You really don't deal well with facts and reality, do you?




You've got to be kidding me.

You don't really think they took the guy in the 4th round and then said...

"you know what? hell with it? Lets see if he can play DE?????"

and then when trying him out there...

they're like

OMG WHOA

I guess he can!!!

And then they immediately tried out their kicker at QB but that didn't work so they kept him at kicker I guess.

And then they put the towel boy at WR and that's where Boerigter came from...they were close on that one.
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i thought derrick thomas was the alltime ncaa sack leader
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there was that waterboy at south central louisiana st that turned into an awesome linebacker
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