Football Who should we draft 1st? - Page 17

KCChiefsMan · 04-05-2010, 11:04 AM

who should it be?

RustShack · 04-05-2010, 10:29 PM

Weren't both Super Bowl teams built around the QB with a 4-3 defense and both had a good safety?

Deep safety draft.. so get the QB to build around in the first.. and star safety in the second..

jplrad · 04-05-2010, 10:36 PM

1. Rolando McClain - general on the field and well versed in 3-4 defense.
2. Dan Williams - best nose tackle in the draft(?), cornerstone of the 3-4 defense.

Pioli will not draft a safety with the 5th pick nor will he take Claussen. Okung will be gone by the 5th pick guaranteed. Bulaga is a short armed left tackle and could also be gone.

Micjones · 04-06-2010, 12:49 AM

Eric Berry or Jimmy Clausen.

**Ming the Merciless** · 04-06-2010, 03:20 PM

Maybe it is unlikely but trade should be one of the choices (trade down)....Also, Okung would be awesome but it is unlikely he will be there at #5...Seems like Bulaga or Williams would be a more realistic hope.

ChiefRon · 04-06-2010, 03:29 PM

OMG. Unbelievable. Same ol' CP.

55% want Berry? Over Clausen (31%)?

Are you kidding me?

Unbelievable.

Let's review.

Rule #1 - You DO NOT pass on a potential franchise QB if you do not currently have one.

We currently do not have one.

If we pass on another potential franchise QB AGAIN, our front office should be replaced AGAIN.

Mr. Laz · 04-06-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Why did we switch to the 3-4 again?

This defense would be miles ahead of where they are if they would have stuck with the 4-3.

how many times have you said this?

we went to a 3-4 because our Coaches etc know and want a 3-4. The same reason that other organization switch to a new scheme when they get new coaches.

i get it ... you don't like it. But stop pretending to be confused about what's going on in some kind of pseudo passive, aggressive bitchfest.

Mr. Laz · 04-06-2010, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefRon

OMG. Unbelievable. Same ol' CP.

55% want Berry? Over Clausen (31%)?

Are you kidding me?

Unbelievable.

Let's review.

Rule #1 - You DO NOT pass on a potential franchise QB if you do not currently have one.

We currently do not have one.

If we pass on another potential franchise QB AGAIN, our front office should be replaced AGAIN.

what if he's not a franchise QB?

Mecca · 04-06-2010, 03:38 PM

Even if you really want Clausen, it's probably best to accept that is so unlikely it would be stunning if it happened.

Mecca · 04-06-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Look at history. Trend SETTING defense wins games and championships, not the followers.

We ****ed ourselves when we went 3-4 when we did. A lot of teams made the switch when we did so now we have to compete with them for the same type of player.

I love the way a 3-4 can be geared toward an all-out aggressive scheme. Pittsburgh looks like they attempt jailbreak blitzes, but they only send 4-5 players. If Crennel adopts this scheme I will LOVE it.

The difference this year is Crennel. Hopefully he can make it shine.

We're chasing the 3-4 trend, it's a problem.

On top of that the NE 3-4 was never like Pitt's or Baltimores, they run essentially the cover 2 of 3-4.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-06-2010, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

what if he's not a franchise QB?

That's absolutely a possibility.

But not to worry, this franchise doesn't have the balls to draft a potential QBOTF and find out.

**DeezNutz** · 04-06-2010, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

what if he's not a franchise QB?

What if Berry ends up being average at best?

Who cares? Fire again.

Mecca · 04-06-2010, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

That's absolutely a possibility.

But not to worry, this franchise doesn't have the balls to draft a potential QBOTF and find out.

They don't and most of the fan base doesn't either, they'd rather take an OT.

KCChiefsMan · 04-06-2010, 03:42 PM

if we pass on Eric Berry this time. We are going to be calling for Pioli's head in 2 or 3 years.

**DeezNutz** · 04-06-2010, 03:43 PM

Berry would be great, but Clausen would be better.

Bulaga, however, would be exceptional.

**Bane** · 04-06-2010, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

That's absolutely a possibility.

But not to worry, this franchise doesn't have the balls to draft a potential QBOTF and find out.

I'm with ya but when you don't have the front office or scouts that can recognize QBOTF talent what do you expect?

View Poll Results: why do I need to ask again?
Eric Berry	109	52.91%
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jplrad Rookie Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10004900	1. Rolando McClain - general on the field and well versed in 3-4 defense. 2. Dan Williams - best nose tackle in the draft(?), cornerstone of the 3-4 defense. Pioli will not draft a safety with the 5th pick nor will he take Claussen. Okung will be gone by the 5th pick guaranteed. Bulaga is a short armed left tackle and could also be gone.
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Ming the Merciless Emporer of Mongo Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Milky Way Casino cash: $-582444	Maybe it is unlikely but trade should be one of the choices (trade down)....Also, Okung would be awesome but it is unlikely he will be there at #5...Seems like Bulaga or Williams would be a more realistic hope.
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ChiefRon Starter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Memphis, TN Casino cash: $10004900	OMG. Unbelievable. Same ol' CP. 55% want Berry? Over Clausen (31%)? Are you kidding me? Unbelievable. Let's review. Rule #1 - You DO NOT pass on a potential franchise QB if you do not currently have one. We currently do not have one. If we pass on another potential franchise QB AGAIN, our front office should be replaced AGAIN.
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KCChiefsMan AIC Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: West Roxbury, MA Casino cash: $10004900	if we pass on Eric Berry this time. We are going to be calling for Pioli's head in 2 or 3 years.
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