just more speculation about RGIII

[tooge]

Well, at least they mention the chiefs


Robert Griffin trade rumors already spinning out of control
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 28, 2012, 4:04 PM EST

APForget the Combine. Forget free agency. Robert Griffin III trade chatter dominates the NFL discussion these days.

And it’s still February.

Perhaps Rams COO Kevin Demoff is right: It’s getting less crazy to imagine a deal could be completed before free agency. We’ve read and heard an unprecedented amount of trade rumors about the No. 2 overall pick for this time of year.

Let’s go over the latest:

1. Mike Jones of the Washington Post writes the Redskins would give up the No. 6 overall pick and next year’s first round pick in addition to multiple picks in the mid-to-upper rounds of the draft. Consider this the starting point for negotiations.

The Rams are reportedly looking for a similar package to the one San Diego netted for Eli Manning: Two firsts (including the No. 4 overall pick), a third- and fifth-round pick. The Redskins sound ready to meet this demand.

2. Texas A&M prospect Ryan Tannehill is watching the Griffin talk closely. Jones believes the Redskins would take Tannehill at No. 6 overal if they can’t get Griffin.

3. Terry Pluto of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer believes the Browns will ultimately have to give up three first-round picks in order to land Griffin. Do I hear four, Redskins? (This reminds us of a classic article by the Onion.)

4. Demoff told Peter King of SI.com that the Rams received a feeler from a team “you would never expect.” Does Kansas City count? If not, we’ll roll with Philadelphia as our irresponsible guess for a mystery team. Enter your pick below.

5. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch considers the Redskins the early favorite to land Griffin. This sounds true based on all the reports, plus Mike Shanahan’s close relationship with Jeff Fisher.

[Sofa King]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Peyton was throwing to backs and receivers after practice since week 11 of last season and now throws the whole route tree.

Stick to the facts.

Why?

Guessing and making shit up is so much more fun. Paired with assuming the worst in all situations, and you've got yourself some golden posts.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by eric007

I would rather draft Ryan Tannehill than rg3. What you kids don`t understand the street ball style of vick and others like him yes is fun to watch .But in the end that not win you games. Or draft weeden.

Does RGIII owe you money? I swear your dislike of him is hilarious. You keep comparing him to Vick even though the only similarities between the two are the fact they are both fast and black. So is it because he is fats that you have issues with him?

[Sofa King]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Does RGIII owe you money? I swear your dislike of him is hilarious. You keep comparing him to Vick even though the only similarities between the two are the fact they are both fast and black. So is it because he is fats that you have issues with him?

Eric's a troll. Don't sweat him. His posts are always opposite of the popular thought.

How he's still around here though, that's the mystery.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

Eric's a troll. Don't sweat him. His posts are always opposite of the popular thought.

How he's still around here though, that's the mystery.

Classic contrarian. If everybody hated RG3, he'd say "How can you deny this man's talent? You all are blind."

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Manning hasn't thrown a ball in over a year. There were the rumors that he's left with a noodle arm because of the nerve damage in his neck.

Besides the fact that he's 36, and coming off of, let's count them, one, two, three and four, neck surgeries.

I love the guy. One of the best ever. But he's 36 years old (as of March 24th) and has had multiple neck surgeries.

What do you think you are going to get from this guy at this point? Besides a massive salary cap hit and another two year delay in drafting and developing a young quarterback?

Here are couple a sobering facts: During Peyton Manning's LIFETIME, the Chiefs have a regular season record, on average, of 7-9. Peyton Manning has had as many playoff victories in ONE YEAR as the Chiefs have had during his ENTIRE LIFE.

People wonder why a lot of us want to draft RG3? That's why.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Brock

No. A franchise QB isn't somebody you get a few good years out of. Green doesn't compare to Matt Ryan, who will probably still be playing 8-10 years from now.

You're arguing semantics. Regardless of label, Ryan and gren are good ABS who likely need a good supporting cast to get to the next level. For most qbS, even franchise qbs, you have to also be effective in the draft to support him.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You're arguing semantics. Regardless of label, Ryan and gren are good ABS who likely need a good supporting cast to get to the next level. For most qbS, even franchise qbs, you have to also be effective in the draft to support him.

Every QB needs a good supporting cast to get to the next level.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

Here are couple a sobering facts: During Peyton Manning's LIFETIME, the Chiefs have a regular season record, on average, of 7-9. Peyton Manning has had as many playoff victories in ONE YEAR as the Chiefs have had during his ENTIRE LIFE.

People wonder why a lot of us want to draft RG3? That's why.

Also lets not forget the Giants with Eli (whom they had to give up picks for) have more playoff wins this year than we have had since SB IV. Also they have as many SB rings with Eli (whom they again gave up picks for), as we have SB appearances. But lets not go big and get us a franchise QB. Lets keep doing it the way we always have and play it safe. Don't want to jeopardize the future.

Some say "wait till next year for our QB" Some problems with that though

1. We finished 7-9 minus Moeaki, Berry, and Charles with Cassel and Palko under center with one of the toughest schedules in the NFL. We get them back (hopefully not Cassel or Palko) and have an easier schedule, hard to think we will draft #11 next year.

2. This year's QB class was supposed to be deep, till it wasn't. Barkley and Jones went back to school making this QB very weak outside of the top 2 (hell Tannehill is looking like a Top 10-15 pick). Everyone thinks next years will be deep as well, but what if the underclassmen don't declare? Then it becomes weak again and we are right back in this situation again, except this time we might be trying to trade up from the 20's instead of #11.

No more excuses, this is the year to take the gamble. We have nothing to lose as the old ways do not work as our history has shown. Oh and I am agreeing with everything you have said. This response is not directed at you, just using your post to caveat on what you have been saying.

[Epic Fail 007]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

Eric's a troll. Don't sweat him. His posts are always opposite of the popular thought.

How he's still around here though, that's the mystery.

No sofa,Erics not a troll your one to talk. Im not here to be a robot and post the in popular thing.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You're arguing semantics. Regardless of label, Ryan and gren are good ABS who likely need a good supporting cast to get to the next level. For most qbS, even franchise qbs, you have to also be effective in the draft to support him.

I doubt it. Its hard to argue semantics with someone spewing gibberish.

[Epic Fail 007]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Does RGIII owe you money? I swear your dislike of him is hilarious. You keep comparing him to Vick even though the only similarities between the two are the fact they are both fast and black. So is it because he is fats that you have issues with him?

I do not dislike. I dislike the fact you assume im a racist. Im saying you do not win running around as a QB like some jack rabbit. I said nothing about color.Im talking about the style. The style is NOT a winning formula never has been. A QB is paid to make pin point passes not to be a RB and run around like a jackass. This is not a white,black issue I could care less about that.Any qb can run when LBS drop in coverage that takes no brains.So in closing a QB is suppose to throw. If they draft rg3 cool thats awesome. All I said who I would rather have.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by eric007

I do not dislike. I dislike the fact you assume im a racist. Im saying you do not win running around as a QB like some jack rabbit. I said nothing about color.Im talking about the style. The style is NOT a winning formula never has been. A QB is paid to make pin point passes not to be a RB and run around like a jackass. This is not a white,black issue I could care less about that.Any qb can run when LBS drop in coverage that takes no brains.So in closing a QB is suppose to throw. If they draft rg3 cool thats awesome. All I said who I would rather have.

If you think RG3 runs around like a "jackass" or that he can't make "pin point passes" then you've obviously have never seen him play. You are the only jackass around here by making those statements. RG3 is a pocket passer with pin point accuracy that happens to run a 4.4 forty.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by eric007

I do not dislike. I dislike the fact you assume im a racist. Im saying you do not win running around as a QB like some jack rabbit. I said nothing about color.Im talking about the style. The style is NOT a winning formula never has been. A QB is paid to make pin point passes not to be a RB and run around like a jackass. This is not a white,black issue I could care less about that.Any qb can run when LBS drop in coverage that takes no brains.So in closing a QB is suppose to throw. If they draft rg3 cool thats awesome. All I said who I would rather have.

You are suggesting he is a run first QB, and that is far from the truth.

Now, I ask again.
Tell us all about this "street ball" he plays?

[Epic Fail 007]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

If you think RG3 runs around like a "jackass" or that he can't make "pin point passes" then you've obviously have never seen him play. You are the only jackass around here by making those statements. RG3 is a pocket passer with pin point accuracy that happens to run a 4.4 forty.

Yes I have seen him play. Yes all that cute crap works in college not the nfl. Yes he completed passes against big 12 defense,COME ON NOW. Take the rose colored glasses off and look at the big picture.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by eric007

I do not dislike. I dislike the fact you assume im a racist. Im saying you do not win running around as a QB like some jack rabbit. I said nothing about color.Im talking about the style. The style is NOT a winning formula never has been. A QB is paid to make pin point passes not to be a RB and run around like a jackass. This is not a white,black issue I could care less about that.Any qb can run when LBS drop in coverage that takes no brains.So in closing a QB is suppose to throw. If they draft rg3 cool thats awesome. All I said who I would rather have.

Then stop comparing him to Vick. They have only three things in common.

1. Arm strength

2. Both are fast

3. You know what it is

The guy is head and shoulders a better QB prospect than Vick ever was.