***Official 2015 STL Cardinals Thread***

[BigRedChief]

2011 World Series Championship
2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance

• Made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.
• Only 1 losing season since 2000.
• Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
• Made the NLCS 9 times including the last 4 years 2011-2014
• Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
• 65 post season wins since 2004. 22+ wins more than any other team.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I can't imagine Holliday's defense at 1B could be worse than his defense in LF. And it's not like Matt Adams - who legitimately throws like a girl, has no range, and isn't particularly agile around the bag or adept at scooping the ball in any looks I've had at him - was Keith Hernandez or anything over there.

Eh, Adams was actually okay defensively. He was a good leg-bender so he got down low to take hops and was quite good at scoops because of it. He didn't have a lot of range but his first step was pretty good and his hands were surprisingly soft.

He was deceptively solid defensively. He was far better than Craig over there and probably a tick better than Reynolds. Adams was never a defensive liability. Holliday, who's not played IF in nearly 2 decades, most certainly would be.

EDIT: It's not actually been as long as I thought - he played 3b when drafted and played 112 games there as recently as 2000. Yeah, get that man a 1bman's mitt...

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Mother of God, why would you even approach giving up that much for Alonso?

You keep mentioning him like he's ever actually done something in this game. WTF is the difference between Alonso and Matt Adams? Alonso's nothing but a high draft pick and some sparkly minor league numbers. He's been a career disappointment in the majors.

Giving up one of those guys is too much, let alone both. Alonso's just slow singles hitter with marginal defense. His upside is James Loney.

I just looked at his numbers and from the maybe 3 times I've watched him. Also, when you're in the desert and water kinda thing ie 1st base.

Chalk it up to wilfully ignorance on my part.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I don't understand why people think you can just throw anyone a first baseman's mitt and have them become an adequate defender there.

[Mi_chief_fan]

So, I guess offensively the game plan tonight is to swing early and get back to the bench as soon as they can?

[Mi_chief_fan]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I don't understand why people think you can just throw anyone a first baseman's mitt and have them become an adequate defender there.

Because people are dumb.

[ChiefsCountry]

Holy shit Wong just made one hell of a play.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Eh, Adams was actually okay defensively. He was a good leg-bender so he got down low to take hops and was quite good at scoops because of it. He didn't have a lot of range but his first step was pretty good and his hands were surprisingly soft.

He was deceptively solid defensively. He was far better than Craig over there and probably a tick better than Reynolds. Adams was never a defensive liability. Holliday, who's not played IF in nearly 2 decades, most certainly would be.

EDIT: It's not actually been as long as I thought - he played 3b when drafted and played 112 games there as recently as 2000. Yeah, get that man a 1bman's mitt...

I was gonna say, I always kinda thought Adams was pretty solid defensively.

Also, I'm gonna go ahead and let my Alonso thoughts die after looking more into his numbers. Yeesh.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Holy shit Wong just made one hell of a play.

He's turning into a gold glove 2nd baseman

[Mi_chief_fan]

You cannot walk Fowler here.

[Mi_chief_fan]

Probably should get Lackey out now....

[Mi_chief_fan]

Or, induce a 3-4 double play! John Lackey, you ARE the alpha male!

[ChiefsCountry]

Like I said before, its just amazing the mental skull ****ing you guys have on the Cubs. Lester throwing a no hitter, gets broken up by a bad play by the Cubs new golden boy, then he screws up right after.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Holy shit Wong just made one hell of a play.

You see his play yesterday? Amazing

['Hamas' Jenkins]

In the last six games Grichuk is 0-19 with 9 Ks. OBP now comfortably below .300 again.

[BigRedChief]

Do they take into account that the teams have to play a doubleheader tomorrow?