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Old 04-03-2016, 09:48 AM  
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And so it begins: The Royals' second straight attempt to repeat as AL Champions, and first attempt to repeat as World Series champions.

In this thread, we'll track all non-gameday action. Roster moves, prospect news, etc.

I'll start the thread as usual, with division rivals thoughts. I still like KC to repeat as AL Central champs. Here's how I see the rest of it shaking out:

2) Indians - they have the pitching (and seem to have at least semi-Kluber-ed Cody Anderson, who added 3 mph to his fastball in the offseason). Will the offense hold up? I think this is a team that ends up looking a lot like the 2014 Royals. Francisco Lindor will solidify their IF defense over the full season, and is a help with the bat. I think this club is still a year away from really breaking through - the offense still has a lot of question marks - but I like them to nab a wildcard spot.

Key Player(s): Michael Brantley. When Brantley returns - and how he hits when he does - will be critical to the Indians' ability to be good enough on offense.

Jason Kipnis. Kipnis has been an enigmatic offensive performer for the past several years. If he finally has a good offensive campaign from start to finish, Cleveland could make real noise.

Something of interest to me: For all the acclaim the Twins' farm system gets, I look at the Indians young players, and would much rather have them. Brad Zimmer is going to be a very good all-around CF. Clint Frazier has huge power potential and should arrive soon (2017). Lindor is a young stud.

3) Tigers - Old and dependent on a few stars. If Verlander and Sanchez are healthy and effective, they will be playoff contenders. I'm sure JD Martinez will continue to hit roid-aided bombs. I'm also pretty sure Victor Martinez's days as a huge power threat are gone.

Key player: Justin Verlander. Detroit people would have you believe he figured out how to succeed without his big fastball in September of last year. If that's true, and he returns to dominant form, Detroit will likely contend again.

Something of interest to me: Will Jose Iglesias stay healthy and not try to kill teammates in the dugout? His defense makes the whole group much better.

4) Twins - They won't lead the division or be in playoff contention for as long this year, but Minnesota will avoid the cellar.

Key Player: Miguel Sano. Huge power, huge K rate. Can he continue to drive the ball and be a plus offensive player? Probably needs to cut that 35 percent K percentage to do so.

Something of interest to me: Will teams challenge Sano inside with hard stuff? Working away, away, just lets his power play up. Also - will Mike Berardino continue to be the biggest beat writer homer in MLB?

5) White Sox - still managed by a shitty manager who can't control his clubhouse (The blame for the LaRoche thing really should fall on him, not the GM). Still have a shitty overall defense and a lot of douchebags on the team. They will once again look better on paper than they actually perform.

Key player: Carlos Rodon. The White Sox need Rodon to take a big step forward to make an actual move this season. He's got the talent...

And, as always, here are the prospects.

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Old 07-03-2016, 07:20 PM   #2611
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One thing that really stands out to me looking at the stats halfway through the season is how much more they are striking out this year. Last year the whole team only had 973 strikeouts. This year they are on pace for 1188.

Hosmer - 108 Ks in 2015, on pace for 136 this year.
Escobar - 75 Ks in 2015, on pace for 102 this year.
Perez - 82 Ks in 2015, on pace for 134 this year.
Cain - 98 Ks in 2015, on pace for 128 this year.
Morales - 103 Ks in 2015, on pace for 120 this year.
Gordon - on pace for 20,000,000 Ks in both years if he doesn't get hurt.

Part of the thing that made this team so fun to watch last year was how much they put the ball in play and how little they struck out. They finished 2nd in the AL in batting average last year, and believe it or not they're still 2nd in the AL this year. But they've gone from 6th in the league in runs last year to 14th this year. This is all with virtually the same team OBP and OPS.
I have to think that the increase in strikeouts is really hurting this team. You can afford to strike out a lot if you're a team like the Astros or the Blue Jays that can overcome that with power. But the Royals are not built to be a team that strikes out a lot.
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Old 07-03-2016, 07:29 PM   #2612
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This Duffy is a pretty solid No 1. He's not an elite ace but would slot into that second tier of SPs (where James Shields used to reside.




I don't think either costs the same type of Haul as Cueto or Zobrist commanded.

Cueto had five years of excellence/top 10 performance in his history. Rich Hill's sample size is really small. Something more like Kazmir's cost would make sense there.

No idea on Reddick. He'd be a nice fit in KC, though.



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I didn't want to overplay my hand, but it think that is reasonable assuming he can avoid being erratic. Doesn't have to be perfect or dominate 7, just no innings the wheel's fall off or surrender 5+ every 5 or 6th start.
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Old 07-03-2016, 07:32 PM   #2613
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One thing that really stands out to me looking at the stats halfway through the season is how much more they are striking out this year. Last year the whole team only had 973 strikeouts. This year they are on pace for 1188.

Hosmer - 108 Ks in 2015, on pace for 136 this year.
Escobar - 75 Ks in 2015, on pace for 102 this year.
Perez - 82 Ks in 2015, on pace for 134 this year.
Cain - 98 Ks in 2015, on pace for 128 this year.
Morales - 103 Ks in 2015, on pace for 120 this year.
Gordon - on pace for 20,000,000 Ks in both years if he doesn't get hurt.

Part of the thing that made this team so fun to watch last year was how much they put the ball in play and how little they struck out. They finished 2nd in the AL in batting average last year, and believe it or not they're still 2nd in the AL this year. But they've gone from 6th in the league in runs last year to 14th this year. This is all with virtually the same team OBP and OPS.
I have to think that the increase in strikeouts is really hurting this team. You can afford to strike out a lot if you're a team like the Astros or the Blue Jays that can overcome that with power. But the Royals are not built to be a team that strikes out a lot.
Everyone on and off the DL really messes with seeing the ball well. In part, at least.
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Old 07-03-2016, 07:50 PM   #2614
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Everyone on and off the DL really messes with seeing the ball well. In part, at least.
Hosmer and Esc haven't been on the DL, and Cain/Gordon were striking out like mad before going on.


Gordon is at -0.1 war. He's been replacement level. He has the same war Rey Fuentes has (having 4x the plate appearances as Rey). He has to pick it up for us to go anywhere. He's not contributing anything
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Old 07-03-2016, 10:09 PM   #2615
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Old 07-04-2016, 07:53 AM   #2617
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One thing that really stands out to me looking at the stats halfway through the season is how much more they are striking out this year. Last year the whole team only had 973 strikeouts. This year they are on pace for 1188.

Hosmer - 108 Ks in 2015, on pace for 136 this year.
Escobar - 75 Ks in 2015, on pace for 102 this year.
Perez - 82 Ks in 2015, on pace for 134 this year.
Cain - 98 Ks in 2015, on pace for 128 this year.
Morales - 103 Ks in 2015, on pace for 120 this year.
Gordon - on pace for 20,000,000 Ks in both years if he doesn't get hurt.

Part of the thing that made this team so fun to watch last year was how much they put the ball in play and how little they struck out. They finished 2nd in the AL in batting average last year, and believe it or not they're still 2nd in the AL this year. But they've gone from 6th in the league in runs last year to 14th this year. This is all with virtually the same team OBP and OPS.
I have to think that the increase in strikeouts is really hurting this team. You can afford to strike out a lot if you're a team like the Astros or the Blue Jays that can overcome that with power. But the Royals are not built to be a team that strikes out a lot.
That is just a little over one more strikeout per game. I don't see that as being the reason for the lower run production. I think it is pretty simply the long stretches of the poor play of some mainstays (Gordon, Morales, Cain) combined with all of the injuries.
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And preview that gives any thought to Danny Valencia being brought back is off base. They traded the guy for peanuts because he's a clubhouse cancer.

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Gordon is at -0.1 war. He's been replacement level. He has the same war Rey Fuentes has (having 4x the plate appearances as Rey). He has to pick it up for us to go anywhere. He's not contributing anything

The huge increase in strikeouts has definitely hurt. Morales seems to come out of his funk, they'll need Gordon to do the same to get out of his.

I don't think what we've seen from Gordon is a sign of detioration, just him out of whack and lacking confidence. He hasn't seen the ball well and he's trying to pull everything. Needs to start letting the ball get deep and hit it to LF rather trying to pull everything and rolling over all the time.

Hopefully yesterday is a sign of things to come for him/building block.


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That is just a little over one more strikeout per game. I don't see that as being the reason for the lower run production. I think it is pretty simply the long stretches of the poor play of some mainstays (Gordon, Morales, Cain) combined with all of the injuries.
Actually, when your roster\game is built on putting the ball in play, and that decreases it your effectiveness. I don't think it's the only reason, but it's certainly a contribution - much like the other things you mentioned.
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That is just a little over one more strikeout per game. I don't see that as being the reason for the lower run production. I think it is pretty simply the long stretches of the poor play of some mainstays (Gordon, Morales, Cain) combined with all of the injuries.
When pretty much every major piece of your roster is having a significant increase in strikeouts at the same time, it hurts your production. This is a team built on putting the ball in play and "keeping the line moving." The inability to do that is definitely hurting the team.
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And preview that gives any thought to Danny Valencia being brought back is off base. They traded the guy for peanuts because he's a clubhouse cancer.
Could you give any more description on this? The Jays did exactly the same thing last year with him (while he was playing quite well) and it was rumored it happened for the same reason you're talking about (but with no real specifics).

How is it exactly that he pisses teammates off so much?
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Could you give any more description on this? The Jays did exactly the same thing last year with him (while he was playing quite well) and it was rumored it happened for the same reason you're talking about (but with no real specifics).

How is it exactly that he pisses teammates off so much?

Was told he is selfish, disruptive and charismatic, which is the biggest problem. His teammates listen to him/are influenced by him, but in a bad way.

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The hitting coach at Omaha has apparently received some recognition for his work with Bonifacio and Dozier (helped greatly with Dozier's adjustment after his slump at AAA), so maybe this move was all about getting Starling involved with him all day, every day.

Stranger things have happened. Starling has every single tool you could ask for. Just a matter of hitting enough (and by "enough", I mean being a .250/.260 hitter with the ability to OBP .060-.070 higher) to let his defense, base running, and power carry him.

Best case at this point would seem to be a Mike Cameron type. I'd settle for a Randal Grichuk - someone who can play elite d (but in CF rather than a corner) and run into a mistake every 25 ABs or so and hit it 400 feet.


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Was told he is selfish, disruptive and charismatic, which is the biggest problem. His teammates listen to him/are influenced by him, but in a bad way.




The hitting coach at Omaha has apparently received some recognition for his work with Bonifacio and Dozier (helped greatly with Dozier's adjustment after his slump at AAA), so maybe this move was all about getting Starling involved with him all day, every day.

Stranger things have happened. Starling has every single tool you could ask for. Just a matter of hitting enough (and by "enough", I mean being a .250/.260 hitter with the ability to OBP .060-.070 higher) to let his defense, base running, and power carry him.

Best case at this point would seem to be a Mike Cameron type. I'd settle for a Randal Grichuk - someone who can play elite d (but in CF rather than a corner) and run into a mistake every 25 ABs or so and hit it 400 feet.


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That's great, so why aren't they firing the AA hitting coach?

A good question, would assume he's doing well with others. Sometimes guys just don't click/work well with a guy.

Kevin Seitzer is, by all accounts, a great hitting coach. And he couldn't reach Hosmer and Moustakas.


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