Thigpen isn't good enough.

[Hammock Parties]

Thigpen just isn't good enough. He disappeared for an entire half. Our downfield passing game was terrible today. Thigpen's running was more impressive than his passing.

And of course his endgame was terrible. A five-yard run and a 10-yard dumpoff to Gonzalez? Pathetic.

We need a new quarterback.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Coach

I was not aware of that. I was aware that Tyler's TD/INT ratio was pretty decent.

Do you have a link where some of those people alledgely said those comments towards Brokie Croyle?

I can't find the thread.

There was an expectations thread started in the PS, and almost universally, people said they'd be happy with a young QB hitting those benchmarks.

FWIW, Thigpen should hit the yardage, or at least get close. (He's just over 2k with 2 to play) And he's well above the 1/1 ratio, even with that horrendous game in Atlanta.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

well, it was a 50 yarder. He's not the strongest legged kicker, so hey, he tried. lol

It's just like golf. Your longest shots, or kicks, will always draw.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Did anyone actually think they'd be running a bunch of gimmick sets that involve 95% of the game being played from shotgun?

Who gives a shit? The facts are there. If fans set a benchmarks for a 3rd rounder made out of glass, with a very piss poor offense who couldn't score at all, and all of a sudden the 7th rounder, and a offense that is barely more respectable is about to surpass the benchmark?

I got a tip for you. Quit using the gimmick offense as an excuse, because evidence shows that in the first half, opponents had a hell of a time stopping it.

You wanna know something? What's been stopping our "gimmick" offense after halftime? Three ****ing words.

Herman.

****ing.

Edwards.

[Mecca]

It does matter, when people made those projections they thought the Chiefs would be a running team, obviously your stat projections change when you throw it all the time.

Look I don't hate Tyler Thigpen but lets be realistic here you aren't going to be a successful team running this offense.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It does matter, when people made those projections they thought the Chiefs would be a running team, obviously your stat projections change when you throw it all the time.

Look I don't hate Tyler Thigpen but lets be realistic here you aren't going to be a successful team running this offense.

Gee, I guess scoring 14 points by halftime isn't considered successful, when you consider in the fact that this is coached by a Herman ****ing Edwards football team?

If there was an comptent coach on the sideline, the results would have been very much different, and the Chiefs wouldn't be 2-12 right now.

Oh, and I am being realistic, thank you very much.

[Mecca]

I'd like you to show me another team in the league that thinks running the pistol is a good idea...

You aren't going to win anything meaningful doing this, now it keeps them from getting blown out. Unless Tyler Thigpen can learn to play in pro sets he's not going to be the guy because this is a real problem.

[KCKY-Fan4life]

We played not to lose. At least our guys know they can win a half of football. WE just need to start winning 2 halfs. The talent is there. I think we turn the corner next year, like Miami did this year.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by KCKY-Fan4life

We played not to lose. At least our guys know they can win a half of football. WE just need to start winning 2 halfs. The talent is there. I think we turn the corner next year, like Miami did this year.

So we're going to go sign a bunch of vet players?

Also have you seen the schedule next year?

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'd like you to show me another team in the league that thinks running the pistol is a good idea...

You aren't going to win anything meaningful doing this, now it keeps them from getting blown out. Unless Tyler Thigpen can learn to play in pro sets he's not going to be the guy because this is a real problem.

Well, maybe it's just a radical innovation that many people aren't wanting to accept it. I wanted the coaching staff to have Brodie play in the shotgun formation for the most part, and start flinging that damn thing down the field. But after seeing him that he was made out of glass, I could understand why they were not too keen on wanting him to do that, considering that he also holds on the ball too long, and that also would explain why the high numbers of dumpoffs to the RB's.

OnTheWarpath58 has mentioned many times that LJ's YPC has improved by running this formation, and it is his highest since '05. The problem here is how the coaches are handling it. Last week, it was 3 carries in the 2nd half for Larry. This week, it was ultra conseritive playcalling. Larry didn't get his 25 carries. If you give it to Larry 25 times, more often than not, he'll give you 100 yards.

If you have taped this game, I would encourage you to watch it again, and compare the playcalling/mode in the first half to the 2nd half. Many people at the game, and on the board here strongly believed that the Chiefs were in attack mode in the first half, and in the 2nd half, they get conseritive. Why? I mean, you're 2-12. What the hell do you have to lose anyways by staying aggressive anyways?

[Mecca]

You aren't going to run 25 times out of that set, if the other team plays run out of it he's going to have a hard time gaining yards...

It's great as a piece of an offense, as the offense not so much.

[kcxiv]

I dont know why people argue with Mecca back and forth. He's right and everyone else is wrong. He's to stubborn.


You can win meaningful games with this offense if your defense is good enough. The defense is crap. Imagine if we had a Pitt or Ravens D? shit.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Felix Jones led the league in YPC before his injury, therefore he should have 25 touches a game.

[Mecca]

This is not the big ****ing 12 ok it's the NFL, you are not going to spread out your opponent and take advantage of something it doesn't work that way.

I'm not telling you I'm right you're wrong but look man common sense, if you were going to run the ball because you had a lead would you do it from the shotgun?

[royr17]

I still think Thigpen is the QBOTF, just give him some time, I mean after all this is basically almost like his rookie year, and he wanted to play RB in college when they made him a QB, so give him time, he is still learning the position, he'll get better with experience, I mean hell its not like they are going to the super bowl next year anyways, we are not quite there yet, but the team is making progress.

Patience is a virtue. But your frustrations are just like mine. I dont like seeing this team losing, but we have done for as a team with Tyler then we did with Brodie. Just give it time it dont all just happen over night.

[Mecca]

I'm pretty sure Roy thinks whoever lines up under center is the QB of the future.