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[KCrockaholic]

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[philfree]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Again, it's not about the contract.

Albert not only proved he could play the position, he was arguably THE best LT taken in last year's draft.

He's EASILY better than anybody coming out this year.

DON'T ****ING MOVE HIM. It's as simple as that.

I agree. If it were me and I was taking an OT I'd draft Andre Smith. I'd draft him if he passed a series of interviews that is. I'd put him at RT and leave Albert where he is. Our line would immediately become a strength.


PhilFree

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Again, it's not about the contract.

Albert not only proved he could play the position, he was arguably THE best LT taken in last year's draft.

He's EASILY better than anybody coming out this year.

DON'T ****ING MOVE HIM. It's as simple as that.

RIGHT ON, good post rep

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If you have the time, starting a thread that further illuminates this point would probably be helpful in demonstrating why moving him would be a terrible, terrible decision.

Of course, it might also be an exercise in pissing into the wind...

It's impossible to demonstrate. Saying a one year player is easily better than all other LOT prospects can't be proved until they've all played a few years in the NFL.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by philfree

I agree. If it were me and I was taking an OT I'd draft Andre Smith. I'd draft him if he passed a series of interviews that is. I'd put him at RT and leave Albert where he is. Our line would immediately become a strength.


PhilFree

I agree totally. If we must draft an OT in the first... an idea I am still not totally sold on... a trade down if at all possible of a few spots and aquire more picks and go with Smith.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

It's impossible to demonstrate. Saying a one year player is easily better than all other LOT prospects can't be proved until they've all played a few years in the NFL.

Sure you can make an argument for it with detailed analysis.

We're not dealing in the realm of absolutes.

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Now, a few weeks later when Wrights opinions don't mesh with the views of the drafturbators, all of a sudden the guy is a hack. The level of immaturity and insecurity among draft gurus is amazing. Whereas the draft forum used to be a good place for people to learn new things and opposing views on players it has slowly degraded into a fourm of "I know more than anyone else. You are wrong. You are a reerun if you think differently."

this.

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Again, it's not about the contract.

Albert not only proved he could play the position, he was arguably THE best LT taken in last year's draft.

He's EASILY better than anybody coming out this year.

DON'T ****ING MOVE HIM. It's as simple as that.

I think Al Groh, the guy who has coached them both for several years who is a good contact of Pioli's will tell Pioli who is better. If we do draft Monroe, I believe that Groh and Pioli have had enough conversations and watched enough tape to confirm that Monroe is an upgrade over Albert. I'm assuming you know that Pioli and Groh worked together for the Jets. These guys know more about Monroe and Albert than we do. Groh should know which one is better. He's coached them.

Many people have made the argument that you don't draft Albert due to value. I don't believe that because (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...20#post5675020).

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I agree totally. If we must draft an OT in the first... an idea I am still not totally sold on... a trade down if at all possible of a few spots and aquire more picks and go with Smith.

I like Smith's physical ability, but the guy seems like a head case. what an idiot. he left the combine early and he has fired a couple of agents. he shows up at the combine in bad condition. he spoke with an agent prior to Alabama's bowl game and wasn't able to play in the game. at Alabama's pro day he runs with his shirt off and looks like a jelly man. seriously... I don't know if I would invest in this guy. I wouldn't be surprised if he was out of the league in 3 years. what is money going to do to this guy? how's he going to able to handle it? I just don't see him and money being a good thing. He doesn't seem to think very important decisions through. I just don't see him handling all the temptation and stress and hype very well. who knows... but I'd rather have Monroe. He seems much more stable.

[SBK]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I'm getting set to read this whole thread, but I just wanted to toss this out there before I start. If Pioli does draft an LT, does that mean he does not know how to build a winning team?

Yes.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

I like Smith's physical ability, but the guy seems like a head case. what an idiot. he left the combine early and he has fired a couple of agents. he shows up at the combine in bad condition. he spoke with an agent prior to Alabama's bowl game and wasn't able to play in the game. at Alabama's pro day he runs with his shirt off and looks like a jelly man. seriously... I don't know if I would invest in this guy. I wouldn't be surprised if he was out of the league in 3 years. what is money going to do to this guy? how's he going to able to handle it? I just don't see him and money being a good thing. He doesn't seem to think very important decisions through. I just don't see him handling all the temptation and stress and hype very well. who knows... but I'd rather have Monroe. He seems much more stable.

I don't think he had any issues till the end of college. What happened? Like I said I'd give him some interviews and see if the guy just had a moment or if he's really is a headcase. He was the top rated player in the draft by some before his troubles started so it might be worth digging deeper so see what his deal is/was. He'd be an awsome RT.


PhilFree

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

I like Smith's physical ability, but the guy seems like a head case. what an idiot. he left the combine early and he has fired a couple of agents. he shows up at the combine in bad condition. he spoke with an agent prior to Alabama's bowl game and wasn't able to play in the game. at Alabama's pro day he runs with his shirt off and looks like a jelly man. seriously... I don't know if I would invest in this guy. I wouldn't be surprised if he was out of the league in 3 years. what is money going to do to this guy? how's he going to able to handle it? I just don't see him and money being a good thing. He doesn't seem to think very important decisions through. I just don't see him handling all the temptation and stress and hype very well. who knows... but I'd rather have Monroe. He seems much more stable.

I think firing his old agent was a good move.

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I think firing his old agent was a good move.

Smith is still an idiot. He tells the media that he spoke with an agent(what got him suspended from the Bama bowl game) to get ready for the NFL and then he comes to combine and can't work out bc he says he's not ready. How many stupid moves does the guy have to make and obvious laziness before you question him?

Would you ever go to a job interview and leave in the middle of it without telling anyone???? It just seems to me like this guy has been dominating on God given talent. He doesn't appear to have worked out much? He just seems real lazy to me. I'd be afraid that he would lose interest after his signing bonus. Look how terrible he looks. can you say moobs?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBmLoOffQjg

this is another reason that I think Monroe has significant trade value because Smith is next and he looks like a big drop off to me. how can anybody with any kind of work ethic be that unprepared for the biggest opportunity of their life??

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Wow. If I had the time or inclination I'd go back and find all the posts where guys who are now busting Wright's balls talked about how great he was. A few months ago I asked Mecca if Wright was ever a pro scout and he gave me a stern lecture on how good the guy was and I shouldn't question his credentials.

Now, a few weeks later when Wrights opinions don't mesh with the views of the drafturbators, all of a sudden the guy is a hack. The level of immaturity and insecurity among draft gurus is amazing. Whereas the draft forum used to be a good place for people to learn new things and opposing views on players it has slowly degraded into a fourm of "I know more than anyone else. You are wrong. You are a reerun if you think differently."

Get a grip.

The fact that we don't necessarily agree with every thing he has to say doesn't mean we think any less of him, and If I disagree, then I'm going to let it be know.

I don't agree with everything he, or Mike Mayock, have to say, but they are still the best out there.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

It's impossible to demonstrate. Saying a one year player is easily better than all other LOT prospects can't be proved until they've all played a few years in the NFL.

The reason that some of us are saying that he is better is because he is more athletic, has better feet, and is a better run blocker.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by milkman

Get a grip.

The fact that we don't necessarily agree with every thing he has to say doesn't mean we think any less of him, and If I disagree, then I'm going to let it be know.

I don't agree with everything he, or Mike Mayock, have to say, but they are still the best out there.

First post in this thread:

"We should all go to it and ask dumb questions"