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Old 03-16-2010, 08:55 PM   #1
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Its not really a risk....

Its more about GM's dont think a safety is as valuable as a LT, QB, Pass Rusher....

They dont want to pick a safety high because they dont want to pay top $$ to a position that they dont think has as much impact on a game as those others.
Well, then we should be fine from this perspective, since Pioli showed last year that he didn't care about all that.
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:43 PM   #2
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Its not really a risk....

Its more about GM's dont think a safety is as valuable as a LT, QB, Pass Rusher....

They dont want to pick a safety high because they dont want to pay top $$ to a position that they dont think has as much impact on a game as those others.
Or the fact that KC hasn't drafted a good safety in 20 years or so.

I think I've changed my mind on Berry.

If we take Berry and he does play as expected that's like beating the Colts in the playoffs. That's like breaking a spell. It means things really ARE different now...
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:17 PM   #3
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The issue here is that you are personally having a hard time believing that Pioli would pass on Berry. I've told you the same thing, yet you've tried to make a Federal Case as to why Pioli would take him.

Now Peter King comes along and agrees with my take from last week.

Pioli will pass on Berry.
I've hardly tried to make a "Federal Case" that Pioli would draft Berry. Fact is I think he could take him, but I've said before that I think he'll draft Dan Williams, even if he stays at 5. I won't like it and hopefully he'll trade down if thats the direction he intends to go.

I've made a Federal Case out of his draft history with offensive linemen because I am dumbfounded at the national media and every mock draft suggesting we'll draft Okung or Bulaga when Pioli has only EVER drafted one offensive linemen in the first round and it was the 32nd pick, yet the media suggests that he will as if he has done it repeatedly.

Sure he could take one at 5, but his history hasn't shown that he would and his history has shown that he has spent a higher draft pick on a safety.

Prior to 2007 his history also never showed that he had drafted a safety in the first, until he took Merriweather at 24, so my argument is that he is just as likely to take a safety as he is a o-linemen. Simple as that.

King didn't say "I've talked to Scott Pioli before and he told me that he would never draft a safety in the top 10, regardless of how talented they are". He's making an assumption that is just as worthless as mine or yours.
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:58 PM   #4
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I was listening to KK interview Mitch Holtus today and Mitch said none of these OL signings means they won't draft OL. He said he believes they will draft OL with the #5 pick. Also talked about moving Waters to C.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:01 PM   #5
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Every time I hear Mitch Holthus do an interview it completely confirms what a dipshit the guy is.

Of course he's the same guy that thought we should use a top 5 pick on Limas Sweed.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:04 PM   #6
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Every time I hear Mitch Holthus do an interview it completely confirms what a dipshit the guy is.

Of course he's the same guy that thought we should use a top 5 pick on Limas Sweed.
Yeah I was just shaking my head listening to this crap. Though I don't know how much insider info Mitch has if any.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:45 PM   #7
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Every time I hear Mitch Holthus do an interview it completely confirms what a dipshit the guy is.

Of course he's the same guy that thought we should use a top 5 pick on Limas Sweed.
You're exaggerating, right? I mean...seriously?
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:48 PM   #8
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You're exaggerating, right? I mean...seriously?
No I'm not, he really pimped Limas Sweed as the Chiefs pick that year.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:50 PM   #9
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No I'm not, he really pimped Limas Sweed as the Chiefs pick that year.
Weak.

Holthus does a nice job as a play by play guy, but that confirms his football knowledge is garbage.
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For a guy that covers games and should know the league Holthus always comes off as nothing more than the average complete moron fan.

I really don't get it at all, you are employed by an NFL team try to be knowledgeable, he just sounds to me like a guy that realizes most people that listen to KK's show want OL so he'll say that to be with the people or something.
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God, now the rats are eating Holthus' brain, too?
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:47 PM   #13
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God, now the rats are eating Holthus' brain, too?
He's always been a dumb mother****er who happened to be a good play-by-play man.

The only way he'd be worth a damn about the draft is if he were calling it as it happened. If he has to insert his own knowledge, he's ****ed.
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Holthus has been a reerun for years when it comes to this shit.....his takes on players that the Chiefs should draft or sign is always awful.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:55 PM   #15
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I bet Eric Berry has more impact on games than Tyson Jackson does.
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