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Old 11-16-2010, 06:02 PM  
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I know everyone on CP hates Cassel.....
So, after listening to Petro's weekly PMS rant about people unfairly bashing Cassel, I started wondering. What would it take for people to actually.....LIKE Cassel? I don't know if there's a thread on this or not because I'm way too lazy to go through all of the Cassel bashing threads.

FWIW, I don't think Cassel is all that great either, but he can, at least, complete a pass once in awhile, unlike guys like Campbell.

What I think would sway my feelings toward him is to do what he did against the Broncos, only when it REALLY matters. I know it would go against our offensive philosophy, but teams are stacking the box on us so much that it looks like it has to be done.......so how about you guys?
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Old 11-17-2010, 05:54 PM   #256
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CP? Peterson was gone before we acquired Cassel if my memory is correct. Scot Pioli was in charge when Cassel was brought in.
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year 2 into a rebuild they are nit picking a program and players that are both showing progress from year 1 to year 2.
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Old 11-17-2010, 05:58 PM   #257
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Didn't read the whole post did ya?

Missed the What if...

Just pointing out that no matter what Cassel might do people like you would dismiss his achievements. He might as well quit right now and find a team that has fans that would appreciate what his tasks are and how he is handling them, that surely can never happen in KC.
what team's fans appreciate shitty QBs more than the Chiefs?
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Old 11-17-2010, 05:58 PM   #258
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:00 PM   #259
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what team's fans appreciate shitty QBs more than the Chiefs?
How can you possibly say this after he just threw for 475 yards and 27 TDs in a win against the Broncos?
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:02 PM   #260
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How can you possibly say this after he just threw for 475 yards and 27 TDs in a win against the Broncos?
Has there EVER been a greater argument for stats being absolute garbage?
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:02 PM   #261
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How can you possibly say this after he just threw for 475 yards and 27 TDs in a win against the Broncos?
because i don't live in a ****ing fantasy world?
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:24 PM   #262
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I'll need to see;
1) evidence of him being trusted to read a defense
2) him actually reading a defense
3) the ability to avoid pressure, and still complete a pass
4) the ability to step into a pass rush and complete a pass
5) the ability to throw accurately 3-yards +
If I begin to see those five things regularly, I'll begin to turn the corner on him. It wouldn't be the finished product I'd ideally like, but enough to show that he could one day be good enough. I'm rooting for him, but have seen none of these enough to believe he'll ever get there.
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:33 PM   #264
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Has there EVER been a greater argument for stats being absolute garbage?



Hmmmm! Nope!
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:35 PM   #265
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:36 PM   #266
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Grbac is fine, he just needs more time and better players - Cassel backers 10 years ago
This could be said about all retread QBs during the Carl Peterson era, exeption Trent Green.
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:36 PM   #267
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what team's fans appreciate shitty QBs more than the Chiefs?



None I can think of.
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:42 PM   #268
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QB's who hold the ball too long generally dont have the fewest sacks in the NFL....

Cassel has done a decent job getting rid of the ball..



When you throw 2-3 yard passes that's a gimme.
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Old 11-17-2010, 07:26 PM   #269
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When you throw 2-3 yard passes that's a gimme.
He's averaging 7 yards per attempt (more than Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Mark Sanchez, Carson Palmer, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Matt Ryan). Don't let that get in the way of your argument though.

It's quicker and easier to suggest he's only checking down.

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He's averaging 7 yards per attempt (more than Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Mark Sanchez, Carson Palmer, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Matt Ryan). Don't let that get in the way of your argument though.

It's quicker and easier to suggest he's only checking down.

As you were.
The Denver game is COMPLETELY skewing the statistics right now.

He averaged 8.8 yards per attempt on FIFTY-THREE attempts.

Before last week's game he was averaging 6.6 YPA which would be near the bottom of the NFL.

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