Jerry Sandusky found GUILTY on 45 of 48 counts...

[arrowheadnation]

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Jerry #Sandusky has been found guilty on 45 of the 48 charges against him.

Maximum of 442 years in prison. I bet he doesn't make it 3 years.

Burn in hell...

[gblowfish]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

What a ****ing terrible drawing.

Yeah, people were tricking Sandusky into raping boys so he'd go into prison.

Um, Bryan, I don't think you are interpreting this cartoon correctly.
Interesting.
Maybe this cartoon is like an ink blot test.
"Tell me, what do you see?"

Other editorial cartoons about Sandusky:
http://www.cagle.com/news/sandusky-trial/

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

For Paterno curley and Schwartz yes. For mcqueary there
are repercussions. Should still rise above those repercussions, but again, an easy decision made more difficult hecause authorities didn't do their job.

People like you are what is wrong with the world today.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

People like you are what is wrong with the world today.

If you say so. I think my view is everything that's right with the world. The military had 19,000 reported cases of rape. Many of those cases were covered up or not taken seriously. There are other cases of military ranking officials using pressure of repercussions to encourage subordinates not to blow the whistle. Since then, there have been whistle blowing protection laws. Again, the military consists of good people, not cowards, but they sometimes feel pressure to not speak up when they should report something.

Companies are installing anonymous whistle blowing tip lines. And they are protecting whistleblowers from repercussions.

This stuff can't happen in the NCAA. They have such ridiculous rules and regulations that big programs have created a culture of secrecy and keeping things under wraps. And you don't create that secrecy unless the higher-ups make it clear that there are repercussions for speaking up. We are seeing that in Pioli's organization -- nothing ever leaks out of that organization and you can bet every single Chiefs' employee knows never to open their mouth. In this kind of a secretive organization, you should have the expectation that when you present a problem to authorities, they'll do something about it. You expect when the head of police knows about it, that the police will conduct an investigation to look into it. None of those things happened. I start from the top-down. By far, the most culpable people in this whole mess are the authorities who had the power to do something and had no repercussions for speaking up, and instead not only ignored it, but covered it up. McQueary never covered up anything. He just didn't act as proactively as he should have.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

People like you are what is wrong with the world today.

No, I'd say that , considering he CAN NOT STOP talking about whistleblowers over rape victims, he's emotionally involved on a deeper level.

..and it ain't pretty.

[SAUTO]

JFC. we are talking about a university, not the mother ****ing military.

At that level you just call the actual police. Immediately.

And if you feel the way you are talking in this thread you ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT WHAT'S RIGHT ABOUT THIS WORLD
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[SAUTO]

And mcqueary absolutely WAS involved in the cover up. He saw what was happening and allowed people that were invested in NOT letting it get out make it go away for a time.

That's allowing the cover up. He could have blown the whole thing wide open.
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[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

did they have an eyewitness in 1998?

if mcquery had told an actual COP, that investigation would have likely gone differently

Hello? Did zilla miss this post?

Doubtful but I didn't think he would respond. the answer doesn't fit whatever ****ed up agenda he has.
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[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

If you say so. I think my view is everything that's right with the world. The military had 19,000 reported cases of rape. Many of those cases were covered up or not taken seriously. There are other cases of military ranking officials using pressure of repercussions to encourage subordinates not to blow the whistle. Since then, there have been whistle blowing protection laws. Again, the military consists of good people, not cowards, but they sometimes feel pressure to not speak up when they should report something.

Companies are installing anonymous whistle blowing tip lines. And they are protecting whistleblowers from repercussions.

This stuff can't happen in the NCAA. They have such ridiculous rules and regulations that big programs have created a culture of secrecy and keeping things under wraps. And you don't create that secrecy unless the higher-ups make it clear that there are repercussions for speaking up. We are seeing that in Pioli's organization -- nothing ever leaks out of that organization and you can bet every single Chiefs' employee knows never to open their mouth. In this kind of a secretive organization, you should have the expectation that when you present a problem to authorities, they'll do something about it. You expect when the head of police knows about it, that the police will conduct an investigation to look into it. None of those things happened. I start from the top-down. By far, the most culpable people in this whole mess are the authorities who had the power to do something and had no repercussions for speaking up, and instead not only ignored it, but covered it up. McQueary never covered up anything. He just didn't act as proactively as he should have.

are you talking about the head of the UNIVERSITY POLICE knowing about it?

I'm talking about the real police. And I know you think they are but they are paid by the university. surely they are unbiased?
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[-King-]

Wait ... Theres seriously someone defending a person not reporting child rape to the police?


What in the ****?

It doesn't matter if McQueary was worried about hi job or not. It wouldn't even matter if Sandusky was McQueary's relative and had just donated his kidney, lung and liver to McQueary. There's no ****ing excuse for not going to proper authorities. Its sad that zilla thinks there is.

Its a child being raped. No excuse.
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[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

JFC. we are talking about a university, not the mother ****ing military.

At that level you just call the actual police. Immediately.

And if you feel the way you are talking in this thread you ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT WHAT'S RIGHT ABOUT THIS WORLD
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The military is about as close of an example as you'll find. But you applauded the Steven Spielberg example, which was about one of the worst examples you can find. But I'm the one pushing an agenda....

[Brock]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The military is about as close of an example as you'll find. But you applauded the Steven Spielberg example, which was about one of the worst examples you can find. But I'm the one pushing an agenda....

The closest example you can come up with is one that's 180 degrees different. Riiight. They execute people in the military. They have their own law, their own court system. This is a college.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Brock

The closest example you can come up with is one that's 180 degrees different. Riiight. They execute people in the military. They have their own law, their own court system. This is a college.

They are close examples because teams are built like armies. There is a peer pressure to never, ever go above your coach and put yourself above your team. There is a ranking system where head coaches call all the shots, and everyone has to fall in line. And because of those things, there is tremendous potential for abuse.

I have said over and over again, while everybody is pointing fingers at the witness, I am absolutely horrified at the abuse of power that high ranking officials at Penn State were actively covering this up. Like I said, you do NOT keep secrets this big for that long unless every person underneath you knows there are clear consequences for opening your mouth. When the people up top create that kind of system of fear and secrecy, you make it something as easy as "doing the right thing" a lot more difficult.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

They are close examples because teams are built like armies. .

You keep lowering the bar for yourself. Well done.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by stevieray

No, I'd say that , considering he CAN NOT STOP talking about whistleblowers over rape victims, he's emotionally involved on a deeper level.

..and it ain't pretty.

I have studied organizational behavior and psychology. I know a thing or two about how people make poor judgments when under duress. I know a thing or two about unethical organizations and how good people are sucked into doing really bad things and are afraid to do anything about it.

The fact that everyone from moral Joe Pa all the way up to the President of PSU actively covered this shit up, even lying on the grand jury stand, that tells me everything I need to know. Everyone from the President down to the Athletic Director to the Coach was aligned to this ****ed up idea that it's better to protect the Penn State brand at all costs, even if that means letting a child rapist walk the streets.

I absolutely blame the shit out of the PSU President, JoePa, the PSU VP, and the AD who created a system and a culture where protecting this monster was considered to be okay and in fact in the school's best interests. I am a lot less inclined to blame a person who gets caught up in that crooked system.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

They are close examples because teams are built like armies.

Dear god.