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Old 01-01-2013, 03:04 PM  
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Is Hunt Telling The Truth?
Don't want to start a panic, but I know we are all thinking the same thing even if we want to ignore it. Clark SAYS he is gonna hire a vet coach that's experienced in what we need and that Pioli won't play a part in the search, but then we keep hearing about guys Pioli has connections with getting interviews and how Clark hasn't even contacted Andy Reid.

I may be jumping the gun here, but this is starting to remind me of last years "we are gonna bring in qb competition" talks that we all know how that ended.

Is this a "fool me once..." type scenario or are all the tree coaches interviewing just bs leaked by Pioli to create the impression he still has his nuts?

Should we be pissed?
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:44 PM   #256
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:44 PM   #257
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What does everybody think the attendance will be at Arrowhead if he doesn't fire Pioli and bring in big name coach?
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:45 PM   #258
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That's exactly what he's doing, IMO - along with a few others.
i'm ok with that...
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:45 PM   #259
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You are assuming that was cowhers pick to make. Or that cowher envisioned Ben as an ideal game manager, which is how I see it. Until I see compelling proof, I see cowher as a guy who wants a power running game and would settle for a game manager at qb.
QBs in the first half of the first are generally thought to have game-manager upside.

FFS, man. Are we just going to make up anything now?

Roethlisberger was viewed as a talented prospect. There were concerns about his transition due to system and quality of opponents, but the Steelers had the balls to draft him. It wasn't easy, I'm sure. It never is because of the damn near insurmountable amount of stupid ****ing fans who cry about the "risky nature" of drafting QBs.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:45 PM   #260
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they don't draft a legitmate QB and immediately start him..then it's all moot.

I won't give even close to a damn unless that happens.
to lose 14 games and earn the #1 pick - with the objectively worst roster of QBs in the league - and NOT draft a QB with the first pick is contempt...pure contempt for your fans

it also means you aren't serious about winning a superbowl, just papering things over to get fans back in the seats...

Clark has to a) fire pioli and b) draft a QB or this has been a total waste of time...
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:45 PM   #261
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The problem with Hunt bypassing the front office in hiring a coach is his lack of knowledge about football. I mean that is what a front office is for. If you are going to do it Clark's way, you need to do what San Diego did, and bring in a Ron Wolf as a hiring consultant.

In a sense, I don't think he is telling the truth about it being his baby -- he is either leaning on Pioli or he has all but fired Pioli and is leaning on someone like Marty.

Bypassing the front office for the most important decision they make without cleaning house makes no sense unless there is already a new shadow GM.
Clark grew up in the football business.

I think his lack of knowledge is wildly overstated
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:46 PM   #262
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Everyone jizzed their shorts over Jim Zorn.

Why?

He was a QB guy. He'll fix everything.


You don't need a QB guy as the HC.

You need the right QB - and that requires good scouting, not a guy like Mike Holmgren who coached the position when Noah was loading the ark.
Mike holmgren coached three hall of fame qbs. You aren't seriously going to build the case that cowher knows qbs better than holmgren. Holmgren didn't fall into favre. He fought the front office to keep him. He groomed steve young all the way from college. And he has coached three different styles of qbs in different eras. I get the age argument. But this guy is a hell of a lot more impressive than cowher.
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to lose 14 games and earn the #1 pick - with the objectively worst roster of QBs in the league - and NOT draft a QB with the first pick is contempt...pure contempt for your fans

it also means you aren't serious about winning a superbowl, just papering things over to get fans back in the seats...

Clark has to a) fire pioli and b) draft a QB or this has been a total waste of time...
bingo...the curtain has FINALLY been pulled back.

they are at the tipping point, IMO.
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You are assuming that was cowhers pick to make. Or that cowher envisioned Ben as an ideal game manager, which is how I see it. Until I see compelling proof, I see cowher as a guy who wants a power running game and would settle for a game manager at qb.
He wanted rivers.
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Clark grew up in the football business.

I think his lack of knowledge is wildly overstated
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:47 PM   #266
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What does everybody think the attendance will be at Arrowhead if he doesn't fire Pioli and bring in big name coach?
I don't know and honestly I don't care. This year I had the energy and anger for SOC. They **** this up, I will have no energy, desire, or passion left.
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Do you really think Cowher, a LB, LB coach and DC, is going to rely on his own opinion to select a QB?

There will be a QB guru on staff who will advise Chin.

This is not Pioli 2.0.
Should I trust some guy? I'd rather trust Gruden.
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The problem with Hunt bypassing the front office in hiring a coach is his lack of knowledge about football. I mean that is what a front office is for. If you are going to do it Clark's way, you need to do what San Diego did, and bring in a Ron Wolf as a hiring consultant.

In a sense, I don't think he is telling the truth about it being his baby -- he is either leaning on Pioli or he has all but fired Pioli and is leaning on someone like Marty.

Bypassing the front office for the most important decision they make without cleaning house makes no sense unless there is already a new shadow GM.
I'll be honest with you. I expect Pioli going away as an inevitable conclusion and I wouldn't be surprised if Clark was leaning on Ray Farmer, who might be his successor.
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Mike holmgren coached three hall of fame qbs. You aren't seriously going to build the case that cowher knows qbs better than holmgren. Holmgren didn't fall into favre. He fought the front office to keep him. He groomed steve young all the way from college. And he has coached three different styles of qbs in different eras. I get the age argument. But this guy is a hell of a lot more impressive than cowher.
Nothing like pining for a guy that coached QB's back when Noah was loading the arc - and calling him a definitive upgrade over ANYONE.

Jesus Christ, you don't hire a HEAD COACH simply because he's experienced with QB's.

Ask Cleveland how that worked out.

Hell, ask Seattle how that worked out.
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