Chiefs The hold that took away our 2 point conversion - Page 18

**TribalElder** · 01-15-2017, 10:30 PM

Happens to Tamba Hali and never gets called

temper11 · 01-17-2017, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

I hear you, but QB is too important in today's NFL to consider any team with Alex Smith an "excellent" team. I'll go back to my 3-legged dog analogy. Alex Smith is a 3-legged dog. He's loyal, he tried hard, but he's never going to win you any races. He's not capable. He doesn't have it in him. I have no problem with Alex as a human being, but I can't stand him as a QB. He's a SLIGHTLY better version of Matt Cassel, but that difference is so small, that except for a few good scrambles here and there, they might as well be the exact same guy. He's horseshit as an NFL QB, and until he no longer starts for us, we'll never have a legit chance to win a championship.

So if Kelce and Maclin and Wilson, etc etc etc. actually hold onto the balls that were right there for them to catch and the Chiefs put up just one more filed goal and win the game... that changes the way everyone is talking about Smith today right? Why would dropped pass after dropped pass after dropped pass change the way people feel about the passer? It's crazy to me.

Nickhead · 01-17-2017, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by temper11

So if Kelce and Maclin and Wilson, etc etc etc. actually hold onto the balls that were right there for them to catch and the Chiefs put up just one more filed goal and win the game... that changes the way everyone is talking about Smith today right? Why would dropped pass after dropped pass after dropped pass change the way people feel about the passer? It's crazy to me.

no, because smith still finds ways to miss the easy ones.

they could have caught all those passes, and smith still misses the two tyreek touchdowns.

that game should have been a 20 point win (should have been)

farmerchief · 01-17-2017, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

When has Smith ever demonstrated a consistent ability to progress through receivers?

BINGO!

Pasta Little Brioni · 01-17-2017, 10:13 AM

Hearing from many non Chief fans how awful that call was today. You simply can't take a game seriously when things like that happen.

philfree · 01-17-2017, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Hearing from many non Chief fans how awful that call was today. You simply can't take a game seriously when things like that happen.

After watching the game again Pitts did a lot of holding that didn't get called. Not one holding call on them. If you watch 'The Hold' in slow motion it looks like a hold but at normal speed it's not. Terrible call that impacted the outcome of the game.

**Nzoner** · 01-17-2017, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat

Under Andy Reid, our playoff losses hurt more than ever, Im young (24) I dont have many to cry over, but Indy, new england, and now this? It hurts, Im starting to realize why there is so many cry baby bitches on this board

Yes you are a young man and if you continue to follow this team and the NFL as a whole take one bit of advice from this old(er) man.Don't let it get you too down(been there and done that in the 90's) and don't ever be surprised what you may see from phantom calls to blatant rule violations with a slap on the wrist to BS concussion protocol standards for some and not others.

**Rain Man** · 01-17-2017, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree

After watching the game again Pitts did a lot of holding that didn't get called. Not one holding call on them. If you watch 'The Hold' in slow motion it looks like a hold but at normal speed it's not. Terrible call that impacted the outcome of the game.

If you watch it from the side, it's clear that there's no holding. If you watch it from the back, you see Harrison's head and shoulders go backwards as he's falling. This is because he's falling and so suddenly his feet are going one direction and his upper body another while Fisher is pushing him, but one could argue that it's evidence of the tickiest ticky-tack holding. But if you're going to call it on that type of incident, you should call it the other 160 times during the game that were more egregious.

The ref had money on the game, or he was told that Pittsburgh needed to win.

DJ's left nut · 01-17-2017, 10:50 AM

You don't get to execute like a peewee team for 90% of the game and then complain about the referees.

The Chiefs didn't deserve to win that game. They didn't win that game.

Full stop.

**notorious** · 01-17-2017, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You don't get to execute like a peewee team for 90% of the game and then complain about the referees.

The Chiefs didn't deserve to win that game. They didn't win that game.

Full stop.

And Pittsburgh did?

They failed just as much as the Chiefs, they just got the nudge at the right time.

DJ's left nut · 01-17-2017, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

And Pittsburgh did?

They failed just as much as the Chiefs, they just got the nudge at the right time.

Pittsburgh controlled the clock and played most of that game on our side of the field. I'm not sure why anyone is taking it as an article of faith that they'd have not marched right down the field and kicked another FG to end it.

Pittsburgh outplayed KC in every facet of that game. Yes, Pittsburgh deserved to win it.

Marcellus · 01-17-2017, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

And Pittsburgh did?

They failed just as much as the Chiefs, they just got the nudge at the right time.

Did Pitt drop a single pass?

**notorious** · 01-17-2017, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Pittsburgh controlled the clock and played most of that game on our side of the field. I'm not sure why anyone is taking it as an article of faith that they'd have not marched right down the field and kicked another FG to end it.

Pittsburgh outplayed KC in every facet of that game. Yes, Pittsburgh deserved to win it.

They couldn't finish drives, and couldn't stop the Chiefs when it mattered the most.

Pitt played like shit, too. They just didn't get a backbreaking "call" that ****ed them out of points a crucial part of the game.

**notorious** · 01-17-2017, 10:56 AM

If KC kicks 6 FG's this place would meltdown with how they should have lost, etc.

Pitt did not deserve to win, but they did thanks to a shitty outing by KC and a perfectly timed call.

Fish · 01-17-2017, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

And Pittsburgh did?

They failed just as much as the Chiefs, they just got the nudge at the right time.

Yes, Pittsburgh did. They completely dominated the Chiefs in stats for about 3.5 quarters of play. If it weren't for PIT's inability to finish off in the Red Zone, this game would be a blowout. We couldn't even force them to punt until the 4th quarter. The Chiefs were lucky as hell to be within reach to tie the game in the 4th.

FanOfRED · 01-17-2017, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

You're right Sandy. None of the blame lands on the offense. None of the blame lands on the QB. The defense didn't do their part tonight. Holding one of the most potent offenses in the NFL out of the endzone all night was not an adequate performance. You Smith nutsuckling maggots need to be removed from the Board. You don't know what it is to be a Chiefs fan.

I couldn't agree with you more about the defense. They did their job and our offense did what they were expected to do. They fell apart and wanted to get bailed out. What I don't agree with is calling the 'Smith nutsucklers', maggots. Maggots do serve a purpose and have a medical benefit. Just saying.

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