Cardinals "Official" 2011 St. Louis Cardinals Thread - Page 183

**BigRedChief** · 02:10 PM

This is so unreal. We were dead. No hope. A season over. Somehow, someway we find some team chemistry and squeak into the playoffs on the last day of the season.

Only to find us facing one of the best pitching staffs assembled in years with home field advantage. We somehow, someway find a way to beat the best pitcher in baseball on the road in an elimination game.

We have to go on the road and beat the team with the best home record in baseball. A team who mortgaged their future to make this run .We somehow, someway find a way to beat them on the road and make our 18th World series trip.

We take game 1, we give away game 2 and home field advantage. Albert goes off for probably the best performance in World Series history and we take game 3 easily. Games 4 & 5 our bats fall asleep, Phone gate happens and its not looking too good.

Game 6, one of the best baseball games of all time and it takes place in a season ending go home game. Cardinals are down 2 runs in their final chance on the season, twice. They are down to their final strike of the season, twice. They give up a 2 run homer in extra innings. In the bottom of the inning their final 3 batters are a combined 3-26 in the Playoffs and a pitcher because the bench is empty. Somehow, someway they get some runners on and the comeback player of the year drives in the tying run. Mr. Freese hits the walk off home run. We will see you tommorrow night.

Game 7, With our bulldog on the mound pitching on 3 days rest he is able to give us 6 good innings and get us to within 9 outs of our 11 World series title. Texas meltsdown, probably left over from last nights game and its over.

The underdog, come back team who had no business even being in the playoffs wins a World championship. They make movies about events like this in life. Events that you remember even if your not a fan of the sport or team for the rest of your life.

When it is your team.......Priceless

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'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-14-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

Um, the Ludwick trade isn't bad.

They spent the same amount of money on Berkman. You can complain about the money Mo gave to Westbrook, but I'd say the trade is fairly even.

But you can bitch about the Ryan and Rasmus trades.

Edited to add: The White Sox got Frasor and Stewart in return for Jackson.

The Ludwick trade was horrible. Regardless of what he's done since, his value as an asset was far beyond Jake Westbrook.

We once almost included Ludwick in the Holliday deal instead of Wallace. Think about that.

It's not always about what the player does after the trade, it's about what their value was and whether or not you maximized the value of that asset.

That's Mozeliak's problem. He's pretty good at drafting, but he is piss awful at trading.

DJ's left nut · 08-14-2011, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It was still indefensibly stupid.

He has K-Mac in the pen precisely because he's hard on LHB, and then when facing Cargo and Helton in a 3 batter stretch, removes him for a LOOGY, and then removes that LOOGY for a ROOGY who is horrible against LHB.

Even if Dotel gets the guy out, it's a ****ing awful, awful decision. He burns two pitchers he doesn't have to, and now because of that, he has Dotel batting in a situation where a hit makes this game un-tieable with a single swing.

LaRussa is an ass, water is wet.

The news is that Dotel actually got a lefty out.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-14-2011, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I know the ESPN crew is just speculating, and there's a snowball's chance in hell of it happening, but I'd gladly swap Albert for Fielder this offseason.

Comparable production, much better health and you'd get almost 5 years younger.

Oh, no way. That fat **** has Mo Vaughn written all over him.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-14-2011, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Oh, no way. That fat **** has Mo Vaughn written all over him.

And we'll disagree here.

DJ's left nut · 08-14-2011, 09:20 PM

Wow.

Daniel Delscalso is in for defensive purposes....for David Freese.

Skip Schumaker remains at 2b.

I absolutely hate Tony LaRussa.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-14-2011, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

LaRussa is an ass, water is wet.

The news is that Dotel actually got a lefty out.

And that's the problem. No matter how bad your individual decisions in baseball are, on an at-bat by at-bat basis, they will usually look right because no one has an OBP of .500 save for Craig Counsell against us.

LaRussa does so, so many stupid things. If he were a football coach, he'd never have moved past graduate assistant at an NAIA school.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-14-2011, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Wow.

Daniel Delscalso is in for defensive purposes....for David Freese.

Skip Schumaker remains at 2b.

I absolutely hate Tony LaRussa.

Holy ****. Went to get a glass of water and missed that.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-14-2011, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And we'll disagree here.

Guys that big who swing that hard age like porn stars.

DJ's left nut · 08-14-2011, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

And that's the problem. No matter how bad your individual decisions in baseball are, on an at-bat by at-bat basis, they will usually look right because no one has an OBP of .500 save for Craig Counsell against us.

LaRussa does so, so many stupid things. If he were a football coach, he'd never have moved past graduate assistant at an NAIA school.

Don't forget Casey McGehee.

I swear, if we'd consider throwing a pitch that isn't an 88 mph cockshot to that guy, we might actually get him out. He's just not that good yet we keep giving him center-cut slop to drill 400 ft.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-14-2011, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Don't forget Casey McGehee.

I swear, if we'd consider throwing a pitch that isn't an 88 mph cockshot to that guy, we might actually get him out. He's just not that good yet we keep giving him center-cut slop to drill 400 ft.

Good call.

O.city · 08-14-2011, 09:25 PM

I'm just tired of watching Tony Larussa uninspired baseball. Thinking bout taking out a hit on Skip Shumaker

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-14-2011, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Don't forget Casey McGehee.

I swear, if we'd consider throwing a pitch that isn't an 88 mph cockshot to that guy, we might actually get him out. He's just not that good yet we keep giving him center-cut slop to drill 400 ft.

His hot zone shows that he grounds to the 2B 11% of the time on said cockshot as opposed to 10.87% of the time on a two seamer on the edge. Thus, it's down the pipe for him/TLR

(Of course he also hits that same pitch in the stands 50% of the time, too).

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-14-2011, 09:27 PM

Given how terribly Jackson pitched, I'm still astounded he gave up only 2 runs.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-14-2011, 09:28 PM

I think the book is out on Jay.

DJ's left nut · 08-14-2011, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I think the book is out on Jay.

It was out last season - LaRussa/Moe just didn't read it before they traded their legit CFer.

Jay's a nice player; a good little .300 hitter that will have some decent hot streaks here and there.

He's not, however, a legitimate everyday CFer.

Someone needs to explain to me how Ludwick could never get everyday playing time because LaRussa didn't want him to get 'exposed' but he's traded Ludwick and Rasmus to leave space for the kid that's most obviously going to suffer over extended laying time.

{sigh}

01-06-2011, 09:41 PM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-881038 VARSITY	"Official" 2011 St. Louis Cardinals Thread This is so unreal. We were dead. No hope. A season over. Somehow, someway we find some team chemistry and squeak into the playoffs on the last day of the season. Only to find us facing one of the best pitching staffs assembled in years with home field advantage. We somehow, someway find a way to beat the best pitcher in baseball on the road in an elimination game. We have to go on the road and beat the team with the best home record in baseball. A team who mortgaged their future to make this run .We somehow, someway find a way to beat them on the road and make our 18th World series trip. We take game 1, we give away game 2 and home field advantage. Albert goes off for probably the best performance in World Series history and we take game 3 easily. Games 4 & 5 our bats fall asleep, Phone gate happens and its not looking too good. Game 6, one of the best baseball games of all time and it takes place in a season ending go home game. Cardinals are down 2 runs in their final chance on the season, twice. They are down to their final strike of the season, twice. They give up a 2 run homer in extra innings. In the bottom of the inning their final 3 batters are a combined 3-26 in the Playoffs and a pitcher because the bench is empty. Somehow, someway they get some runners on and the comeback player of the year drives in the tying run. Mr. Freese hits the walk off home run. We will see you tommorrow night. Game 7, With our bulldog on the mound pitching on 3 days rest he is able to give us 6 good innings and get us to within 9 outs of our 11 World series title. Texas meltsdown, probably left over from last nights game and its over. The underdog, come back team who had no business even being in the playoffs wins a World championship. They make movies about events like this in life. Events that you remember even if your not a fan of the sport or team for the rest of your life. When it is your team.......Priceless . Attached Thumbnails Last edited by BigRedChief; 10-29-2011 at 02:10 PM..
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	I think the book is out on Jay. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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